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TDAS Not Last Season

Season 6

In this video:

In one of the comments, a person asks is Total Drama All Stars the last season, he replies with "HELL NO!" So, I think that says something. Coolboy87 Hey! Yeah I'm Talking to you! Yeah You!.. 16:55, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

It's currently unknown if there's going to be season 6 or not. But i think TDAS will be much successful due to have "Heroes vs. Villains" theme and it's again at Camp Wawanakwa. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! February 2, 2013 (UTC)

I hope that there is a Season 6, I wanna see Noah and Eva compete again! :D Weerwooff (talk) 17:07, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully it's the last season. It's been a good ride and all, but TD isn't an original enough show to have more than five seasons. End it with a feel-good one hour special. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 17:09, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well I don't want the series to end. I wanna have many many TD seasons since they are really cool and they never get boring :) Weerwooff (talk) 17:15, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

It's unknown. I'd like to see more of TD, but i don't think it's going to have a lot of seasons. It might be true that TDAS should be last season since we had rumors before such as Heroes vs. Vilains and all-stars cast, and now it came true. And i think the last season rumor might be true. Currently, it's unknown. The time will answer all the questions. :p I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Keep in mind that voice actors, including Christian, don't actually know how far the series will go. They just know what's on their scripts. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 17:53, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well Christian Potenza was first guy who said that Season 5 was coming, and he also said that it was gonna be Heroes vs. Villains way back in 2010 in YouTube, so I'm gonna go ahead and beleive everything that he says :) Weerwooff (talk) 17:54, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, if Cody is not going to be in this season, I want S6 because I won't be satisfied if Cody doesn't get SOME decent character development. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 19:05, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well it all depends on ratings and if cartoon network wants more seasons. But I think the writters make the seasons so they don't seem like they are the last nor that there are new seasons later. Like keeping it open minded ;) --MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 22:06, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Teletoon, not Cartoon Network. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 22:08, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

@TDA15: Obviously that it's gonna air on Teletoon first. @CD: Yeah, they should end with a special, with all contestants that have ever competed. That would be really cool to see. (; NThree (talk contributions) 23:08, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Why would we want more seasons of the show? I love this series; it's my favorite cartoon in the world and I started watching it from the day it first aired on Teletoon but come on, guys, we've all gotta admit the show's been going downhill. Although I treasure the second and third seasons, nothing will ever compare to the first, especially not whatever they tried to pass off as season four. At this point I'd rather they end things on a good note than drag this out for a few more years... how much more can these characters possibly develop? Not to be pessimistic, but it's a cartoon. They can't deal with any risky, taboo subject matter and, with all due respect, they're not very good at development either with the exception of a few characters. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 02:45, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Ryan: I love this show to. And maybe your right, maybe they should have another season after this one and agreed with ending on a good note. NThree (talk contributions) 02:50, February 3, 2013 (UTC)


Well why does it say on jo's page that's she's in TDAS...she hasn't been confirmed yet? Has she?

Her name appears in the back of the script for episode 4. --exitrus9000 talk 02:35, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lack of Villains

This season sounds great so far but as I pointed out in an earlier heading there aren't many villains in the show. Like, at all. So far, Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, Mike, and Sierra have all been confirmed to return, and there are thirteen contestants. The only people I would actually consider villains on this list are Alejandro, Courtney, Heather, and sort of Jo; I wouldn't say Duncan's a villain since we've been forced to spend the last four seasons rooting him on. And everyone else is definitely a hero.
So if there are thirteen contestants, I'm going to predict that there are two teams, even though I know predictions aren't allowed... however, this is just hypothetical to prove my point. And obviously thirteen doesn't divvy up into two so let's just say that the villains are the team that lacks a player. That still means we need three more villains. Let's add Duncan. Two left. I don't think they'd bring back Justin or Eva but I'm guessing they're bringing back Scott. Still, at the end of the day, we're left with one person. And there are no other villains.
Anne Maria and Dakota aren't considered villains so I'm ruling them out. Is there still one person left that I'm totally forgetting about, are they going to force someone into the villain role, or are they going to pick an anti-hero to fill the villain role? It doesn't make sense to me. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 03:03, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lightning was confirmed by his voice actor, so he'd be a villain and they might throw Sierra or Gwen in there too. (Even though i would really consider either of them a hero or a villain). Also, it's not confirmed that there will only be 13 contestants. I think it makes more sense to have 14 and have even teams, especially considering the theme.Gerty is in da howse! 03:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

It'll probably be like TDRI, the villains will have six on their team, and the heroes will have seven. And we better not have one time suck so much like the Toxic Rats. Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 03:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Gertrude really???? I thought there was a confirmed 13. I forgot about Lightning, I guess they're going to put him as the final villain. I know that compared to Cameron he's a bad guy but at the end of the day he's really just... over competitive. I mean I don't remember him doing anything that "villainous" and he was certainly not a strategist, just a jerk. Gwen and Sierra are unlikely IMO, maybe Gwen but definitely not Sierra. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 03:10, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Also does anyone else find it weird that Owen hasn't been confirmed yet? I mean, guys, it's Owen... he's, like, the producer pet. The entire TD crew loves him for reasons I can never fully understand but I for sure thought he would be the first one that made the cut. What's going on? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 03:14, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

When was Lightning confirmed, again? Also, there probably just trying to be clever and "suprise" us with Owen's return. "Bet you didn't see THAT one coming, hurr :B" TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 03:18, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

There are 13 episodes confirmed, but everyone is just assuming there are going to be 13 contestants because of TDRI.(I think they only had 13 because of Blaineley) I was REALLY hoping they'd bring back Eva, since she'd make a perfect new antagonist, but she's pretty much ben confirmed to not be in. :( I could see them putting Gwen on the Villains, since she's the "New Heather", but Sierra blew up Chris' plane. Still not likely for Sierra though. Also, Owen will obviously be in, unfortunately. I don't understand why the producers love him so much(I hate him), but Tom McGillis himself even said that Owen is  his favourite character from any of his shows. Ugh, he (as well as Duncan) better not make it far this season.Gerty is in da howse! 03:21, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused. Do we know for sure who is confirmed and who isn't? Also I feel like what TDA15 just suggested about Owen is totally going to happen. They wouldn't just not include him. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 03:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

We're not assuming anything about there being 13 All-Stars returning. We know there are, because it's been confirmed! And Duncan will make it to least episode 4, because his VA posted ep 4's script, and why else would he have it if he isn't in that episode. Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 03:25, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

This may be borderline with speculation/prediction, but like Ryan said, this is to prove a point. In all honesty, the list of confirmed contestants so far don't really shock me. I really did expect Heather, Courtney, and Al since they're easily the show's top three most popular villains. Gwen, yeah, not surprised (although her role was somewhat diminished in TDA and TDWT). Cameron, again, not surprised, since he won the last season and is easily the definitive hero out of the 13 TDR contestants. And Mike, to me, is the one other truly obvious hero out of the TDR cast, so I'm not too shocked by him. The one that I'm really shocked - and angry - about is Sierra. I mean, seriously?

But moving on: When exactly was Jo confirmed? I looked at that X-rayed picture of the script, but I just don't see her name. And also: When was Lightning ever confirmed? There's, like, nothing anywhere saying that. But in response to Ryan's question: I honestly do imagine Scott and Justin also returning, just so that we'll see all five of the main antagonists back on one team. So, to me, that leaves only one spot (assuming that one team is down a person like you said, and it's the villains). Personally, I think that final spot could possibly be filled by Ezekiel. I mean, I know it's a stretch, but think about what he's done over the last two seasons. He stowed away on the Jet against Chris's will and destroyed the TDWT prize money. That could be considered villainous enough for Chris to want to bring him back and torture him for another season. IDK, just my thoughts.

And lastly: I totally agree about Owen coming back. I mean, come on. It's Owen. He's pretty much the main character of the series, so there's no way they'll leave him out. He'll most likely return as a hero. And Duncan...I could picture him as either one, but same as Owen: He's too hyper-popular to leave out of this season. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 04:36, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Jo was confirmed in this section. As for Lightning, no idea. And as much as Sierra annoys the living crap out of me, I'll give her a chance to develop without Cody if he doesn't return. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 04:42, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I do agree with that last part, TDA15. I was thinking the exact same thing already: If one good thing comes out of Sierra in this season, it'll be the fact that - IF Cody's not in - she'll finally become her own character. But I still just don't consider her worthy enough to be called a hero. And again, I reiterate: Where is Jo's name in that image? I don't see it. If someone could, like, circle where they think her name is or not, that would be good. I don't think we can use a word like "confirmation" over a very blurry X-rayed image where one word can look like something totally different. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 04:47, February 3, 2013 (UTC)


A bit hard to see, yes. But I'm not sure what else it could be. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 04:52, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, you can't expand TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 04:53, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, you're right. I see it now. OK, so I guess Jo is back. And more than likely as a Villain. :/ --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 04:57, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I can say without a doubt that Duncan will and HAS to be a villain. Not a hero. He hasn't done one heroic thing since voting out Courtney in TDA. Look at it this way, if he is CONFIRMED to be in the season...then do you really think he'd have a chance at being a Heroic Hamster? Of course not. He's a bully, and a cheater, and a screen hog. CoGreen2.0 (talk) 05:11, February 3, 2013 (UTC)CoGreen2.0

Yes, Duncan and Owen are the top two most popular characters by far, and to leave them BOTH out would be insane. But is Owen is decisively a hero hands-down, and our options for potential remaining Heroes this season are much more plentiful than the possible villains. But like I said, Duncan could be either one. To a lot of crazy fanboys/girls out there, he's a hero. An anti-hero, yes. But who knows? And we still can't rule out the minuscule possibility that Duncan won't be in this season. I mean, think about it. When they announced that a select few of the original contestants would be cameoing in TDR, I really believed that Courtney would be one of them due to being a screen hog. But guess what? She didn't appear at all besides the very first episode. That was a legitimate shocker to me, so who knows? Maybe the creators have finally had enough of Duncan. Even Duncan is tired of the screen-time. :P --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 05:37, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

This cast list is just putrid. If they actually leave Owen out (and I would find it jaw-droppingly incredible if they did), it will be the only good decision they've made so far with this season. FloridaMan (talk) 05:47, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

thumb|This is where Lightning was confirmed. Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 05:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, Lightning, Mike, and Sierra; five guys and four girls. If we're saying that Alejandro, Courtney, Duncan, Heather, Jo, and Lightning are on the villains, then that makes up the entire team. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 07:34, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Duncan's 99% confirmed to return. Drew Nelson posted a page of the episode four script on his Instagram page and also said something on his Facebook fanpage about TD5. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 10:40, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

So I guess Duncan and Lightning are just short of official confirmation. And these new blurry images of the list of names under the teams just confirms Ryan's prediction; the Heroes are the larger team with seven members. So unless Duncan is labeled a Hero (and that's not likely), then we have our six villains. The only thing that still royally confuses me is the fact that Courtney's name is under the Heroes. Because that leaves five Villains (assuming Duncan is one) and leaves still one more spot left. Who could it be? My guess is either Scott, Justin, or Zeke. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 17:46, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

If there aren't many villains, then that means that characters like Zoey, Dawn, Bridgette, Lindsay, Harold, Geoff, Tyler, Trent and Cody (who are all maybe) may not compete at all since they are all heroes and I doubt that they wouldn't want to keep the teams even. So if you are a fan of all the characters that I listed, then tough luck. It would take a miracle to confirm them at this point. Weerwooff (talk) 17:50, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lindsay can be seen under the heroes list in the script. --exitrus9000 talk 17:54, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Courtney and Lindsay in Heroic Hamsters?


Courtney and Lindsay in HH

I don't know if you'll be able to read it. But if you really strain your eyes in this pic taken from the new TDAS video, you can kinda read the first two names. I THINK the first name is Courtney, while the 2nd name I'm pretty sure says Lindsay. And is Sierra the 3rd and Mike the 4th? What do you think? OXJoshOx (talk) 06:28, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, from what I can see, my prediction is true. 7 contestants on the heroes, and 6 on the villains. And I can see Lindsay and Courtney as well. BUT COURTNEY. HERO. DAHELL. Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 06:35, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, i think I got a slightly clearer image. Now the fourth name definitely says Mike, then maybe Zoey, and MAYBE cameron next? Then last one is probably Sam. Since he's the only person I know to have 3 letters, I think. The other one's Eva, which is technically confirmed not to compete. Maybe there's someone else with 3 letters that I'm missing. And, that name below Mike can either be Gwen or Zoey, but it looks like there's a y at the end, so probably Zoey. So that means, Gwen might be a villain. OXJoshOx (talk) 06:45, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh please... please please please don't be Zoey! Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 06:48, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

More Names

Clearer image

Yup. It says Zoey. Season 5 isn't looking too good right now. WHERE IS IZZY AND DAWN? Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 06:50, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I definitely see Mike and Zoey's name! And I think Lindsay's... So excited! :DDDDD Fluffy pancakes being my only friend is not scary. 06:50, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

It also says Replacement Villain under Heroic Hamsters o.O I also am not seeing an Owen anywhere. :O OXJoshOx (talk) 06:53, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe that means a team swap? Like someone on the Heroes team does something bad which gets them on the Villains team? Or Vice-Versa? Fluffy pancakes being my only friend is not scary. 06:56, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Guys, remember Jo's possible "elimination spoiler"? "It was an act of valor that inspired my brillant switcheroo."

Don't you guys see? Courtney does something admirable, despite being on the Villians team, which inspired Chris to switch her over to the Heros team!Damfectionist (talk) 07:37, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, nice catch! Jo doign a good deed must have caused Chris to switch her over to the Heroes Team, and probably the same for Courtney. This is Episode 1, though, so not sure. OXJoshOx (talk) 07:29, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know about Jo being switched over. I honestly do believe that she's going to be eliminated in Episode 3. I do believe that she's going to be "flushed".

I really really REALLY hope that this is true. If Courtney truely does something selfish and admirable, then the writers are litertally rekindling her heroic qualities, possibly hinting that she might win the season! (See my "Courtney would only win IF she ignores Duncan and isn't an obsessive villian, theory).

I really hope it's this and not the unfortuantely much more likely alternative which is that Courtney, believing herself to be a hero and furious of being placed in the villians tribes, threatens to sue the show again for, I don't know...slander maybe? Thereby forcing Chris to switch her over. Damfectionist (talk) 07:48, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

So no Izzy or Noah yet we get Zoey and Lightning back. *facepalm* FloridaMan (talk) 07:33, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I know, right? They're bringing back Zoey over Izzy or Noah? What the heck, producers? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 07:43, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, so I think Heroic Hamsters go like this: Courtney, Lindsay, Sierra, Mike, Zoey, Cameron, and Sam (?) Now for villains, I have no idea, but I'm taking a guess at it and see what my eyes make out first: Alejandro, Duncan, Heather, Gwen, Lightning, Scott, and Jo OXJoshOx (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2013 (UTC) 

Slight Clearer, but still blurry Villains list

To be honest, I don't see anything in that image, but I'll take your word for it. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 10:39, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Meh, never mind. I see it now. Probably a team change. I can make out Sam, Zoey and Mike's names in the Heroic Hamsters too. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 10:45, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't look like Zoey to me, it looks like the first letter is "I" and the last one is "y" so maybe it's Izzy instead of Zoey --exitrus9000 talk 12:00, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

It does look like Izzy to me also. --Zannabanna (talk) 15:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

It's definitely Zoey, you can see the "e" and the bottom right curve of the "o".Gerty is in da howse! 15:15, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

The first letter isn't a Z....--Zannabanna (talk) 15:21, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

The first letter doesn't look like a "Z" at all since the line is vertical, not diagonal, it looks more like an "I" --exitrus9000 talk 15:31, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

OK, so we just need to slow down and take a good, long look at EACH name before we start jumping to conclusions. I looked at the image, and obviously, the Heroic Hamsters list is the clearer list in terms of trying to figure out the names. Going from the top down.

  • The first name, I definitely see the "Y" at the end. Looking very hard at the middle of the word, where it's clearest, I see "rt," and just barely make out a "ne" after that. So "rtney." That's pretty obvious, and I'll just throw in my two cents and say that I'm NOT happy about it. Maybe it IS a switch-up like someone else said. Maybe Courtney is put on the Heroes first, then switched to the Villains. Who knows?
  • Looking hard enough, I see yet another "Y" at the end. Looking at the two vertical lines barely visible at the front of the name, I make out an "Li." Lastly, I see an "sa" right before the "Y." So "Li__say." Pretty self-explanatory, and I'm not surprised at all that it's Lindsay. This is one choice I'm actually satisfied with for once.
  • The blurriest name by far, but I can barely make out the "ra" at the end. Piecing two and two together, I can barely see another "r" before that, so "___rra." Pretty obvious it's Sierra.
  • That first letter looks pretty thick, like all the parts that form the letter are closer together. So it seems to be an "M" to me. And I can barely make out a blurry "i" and a "ke." So obviously Mike.
  • I see yet another "Y" at the end. Now, as evident by the comments, a ton of people are jumping to conclusions and saying that it's Zoey, because Mike's in. Thus, a lot of people are mad. However, just look much more closely at the name. I see a single vertical bar at the beginning. Does "Z" look like a vertical bar? That could be an "I," so it might be Izzy. However, the second-to-last letter in the name does look like an "e," so it's up in the air. Zoey or Izzy.
  • Another blurry one. Though after the first letter, I can make out what appears to be a round letter (like "o" or "a") followed by an "M." So _am_____. I would assume it's Cameron, but it could be someone else.
  • Last one: As someone else already said, it's three letters. And there are only two contestants with three letters: Sam and Eva. Eva's obviously not as likely to be labeled a Hero (or popular enough to be in this season, for that matter), and that last letter does resemble an "M." So I'm gonna go ahead and say that it's Sam.

So there's my two-cents. I'm only looking at the bare minimum of evidence, and I'm trying to not delve further into speculation. Because, as evident by this section, random names are being thrown around like Zoey and Lighting (again?). I have no confirmation whatsoever of Lightning, and like I said, it could be Zoey or Izzy. And one last thought about Courtney being on the Heroes: Remember in the TDAS video released by Christian Potenza? At the very end, he talked to both Heather and Courtney's VA's, and Courtney's VA started to say something about Courtney and Heather, something like: "...especially since we're both..." It's implied that it would've been a spoiler about the fact that they're both on the same team. So there's most likely a switch-up, as the X-rayed script seems to imply, and it more than likely involves Courtney.

If anyone else wants to add their own thoughts to this, or point out where I may have gone wrong in my analysis, feel free. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 17:02, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I can't really see anything. That could just be me though my eyesight isn't the best but even with my glasses on I can't see a thing. But I'm sure they'll release the full cast list soon all this waiting to find out the whole cast list is driving me insane! (GwenXDuncan93 (talk) 00:36, February 4, 2013 (UTC))

no dawn or Owen

As its all stars I pretty much knew dawn wasn't in it as she wasn't really a "star" she didnt really do much..BUT OWEN..something must be up

Well, this sucks... Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 07:28, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

How do we know there's no Dawn or Owen? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 07:32, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, we THINK Dawn and Owen are heroes, so them not seen on the Heroes team (or at least that's what it seems to be ) in the images of the script above probably says that they're not in the season. OXJoshOx (talk) 07:34, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

So Far The Contestants Confirmed Are: Jo, Al, Heather, Courtney, Duncan, Gwen, Cameron, Sierra, Lightning, Mike and maybe Sam, Lindsay, Courtney and Zoey?

Confirmed not to compete: Dawn/Owen, Eva, Cody and Noah

So, 14 Contestants..? Coolboy87 Hey! Yeah I'm Talking to you! Yeah You!.. 08:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, 14. 14 would actually be the correct number and not 13. With 13, there'll be only one person left by the last episode. With 14, there'll be two, which is the correct one, unless they have an aftermath. OXJoshOx (talk) 08:55, February 3, 2013 (UTC)'s still 13 by my count. Unless you're implying that Courtney clones herself. Damfectionist (talk) 09:01, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

THERE ARE ONLY 13 RETURNING, NOT 14. IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED. Ever heard of reward challenges? Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 09:48, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Dawn, Owen, Eva, Cody and Noah's not compete this season what is next Alejandro, Heather, Courtney, Gwen, Cameron, Sierra and Mike were competed in total drama all-stars but we can confirm 6 more members Duncan, Lightning, Lindsay, Scott, Harold and Zoey for sometimes Flytraper 06:29, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Where was Cody confirmed NOT to compete? That facebook image from some time ago that said that he wouldn't compete was photoshopped. Also, Owen was kind of a villain in TDA after his return, so maybe he is competing on the villain's team --exitrus9000 talk 12:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok I think we are going overboard saying who is in or not with out clear and believeable proof. Why can't people wait for real news from someone who works for the show? ._. MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 12:24, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Cody is still unknow since the image was fake of his comfrimed not to appear. G'day Sheila! Names Manitoba Smith! Here leave the torches to the menfolk beauty. (talk) 15:08, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Still waiting for the Confirmation of Cody's participation of this season. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 16:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

1: WHY do people keep throwing Lightning's name around and saying he's confirmed? There's been no source, no proof, nothing whatsoever saying that. Same with Duncan. He's not confirmed, either.

And 2: There's no way we can start saying who's not confirmed to compete. Saying who is confirmed is one thing, but it's impossible to rule anyone out from being in this season. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 17:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lightning was confirmed in this pic. --exitrus9000 talk 17:13, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Tyrone Savage in S5

But as others have said, the VA might not be the most reliable person. And isn't that a pretty old pic? --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 17:20, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused...

I know it is basically already confirmed that Alejandro is a robot but it is also confirmed that Courtney and Heather are still attracted to him. And I'm sure they wouldn't want a robot boyfriend. So he could be half robot half human!Silarmy (talk) 11:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)Silarmy

There will be 14 contastants in the 1st part of the season

Christian Potenza said in 2010 that both Alejandro and Ezekiel will be back to normal in Season 5?, if some of you have a source on that please Say it--6teen (talk) 15:04, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Again, guys. Christian Potenza is just a voice actor. Unless something has DRASTICALLY changed, he is not involved with the show and as a result, anything that he says should be taken with a grain of salt, especially the things that he says about characters and seasons since I'm 99% sure he's not involved in the show's creative process. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 15:04, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

If that is true that means that duncan and gwen are out early in the season --Misterunknown (talk) 15:36, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well everything that Christian Potenza has said on YouTube for the past 2 years has become true, that includes Season 5, Season 4 characters, Heroes vs. Villains, and that both casts are gonna compete in Season 5. Weerwooff (talk) 17:44, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe "metal friend" refers to Scott, since he is also in a robot suit or maybe it refers to something else. --exitrus9000 talk 17:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Scott. I totally forgot about him. I hope that it's Scott that's in the robot body that Chris is referring, cuz I has hoping to see Alejandro back to normal at this point since he is a great villain and he wouldn't serve his full potential if he can't move around like he used to. As for Scott, I hate him for getting rid of Mike, he deserves to be a robot. Weerwooff (talk) 17:57, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff I agree with you--6teen (talk) 18:06, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Dawn Not Competing?

Hey, I asked Caitlynne Medrek on her Facebook if she was competing and this is what she sent me.


Dawn not competing?

She doesn't know, which means that unfortunately, Dawn won't be in the season. D: OMG WHY? If they bring in SAM instead her, I am going to flip. I'm already upset with the cast. IDunnoBeckster (talk) 14:02, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oooh. Duncan, Heather, Courtney, Sierra and Al's (among others) VA's know, so..ooh. Coolboy87 Hey! Yeah I'm Talking to you! Yeah You!.. 14:06, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Um..WTF? Dawn is not in season 5? Ugh, I've never been angry with a cast of Total Drama before! >:( They had better have a season 6 with the characters we actually want to see. I'm not looking forward to this season at the moment.Gerty is in da howse! 15:18, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

And with that, all returning characters are screen hogging producer pets and deserve to have all of their heads shaved by Chef, not a million dollars. I have no hopes for TDAS, and I hope it gets cancelled. Anything but another season of Heather, Duncan, Owen, Gwen, Courtney, Lightning, Mike, Zoey, and Alejandro. I'd hate ANY OF THEM winning. Make it stop. Sorry if I'm being harsh but I've had it with this cast and how Total Drama never uses good characters anymore. They continue to suck the life out of characters that they've shoved down our throats for three seasons. And personally, I hate Jo, Lightning, and Mike. Dawn was the only reason I was going to bother watching. CoGreen2.0 (talk) 16:40, February 3, 2013 (UTC)CoGreen2.0

Yeah, basically at this point in time if a voice actor has no idea is he/she is competing, then that probably means that they are not in the show. This means that Blaineley, Noah, Dawn, Cody, Zoey, and Bridgette may not be in since all of their voice actors said maybe. Weerwooff (talk) 17:41, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I want her back but now I see it this is an All Stars and Dawn is no--6teen (talk) 18:10, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Our only hope in Season 6 in 2014, and as long as I don't die early like Steve Jobs or Michael Jackson, then I should be fine and ready by 2014 :P Weerwooff (talk) 18:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I can sympathize with your disappointment of Dawn not being in All*Stars. I like her too and would love to see her compete, but by a realistic standpoint, putting Dawn as a contestant and calling her an All*Star is paticuarly undermining the entire theme in the first place. I don't mean to insult anybody by saying this, but Dawn is not an All*Star. Sure, she was the first TDRI contestant to find Scott's true colors, but in the end she was still a victim to Scott's ploy hook line and sinker. Also, she was the fourth out of the 13 people to be eliminated. There's nothing about her (or really her status) that defines her as an All*Star.  Damfectionist (talk) 22:41, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Possible Release Date for TD5

Brian Froud on Facebook

According to Brian Froud's official Facebook page, here. In this case, since fall starts in late September, there'll be a 1+ year gap between the fourth season and the fifth season, both for CN and Teletoon. If this has been posted before, my bad, but I went through the archive and couldn't see it anywhere. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 14:40, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Season is possible premiere in USA June 2013, as all seasons are released in the U.S. in June--6teen (talk) 15:17, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@6Teen You do have a point there. After all, there's still few months 'till June, so U.S. might have S5 before Canada, which I think it's great because U.S. Better get this season so it can have great ratings from the TD fans. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 16:08, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@6Teen I'm 100% pretty sure that you looked at Wikipedia. It's actually fake. Recently, we got a video from CP about TDAS recodings, and they're in production. So, it's impossible to have June 2013 date. As what CD said, we might see the season this fall (earliest at September). However, if the productions delays once, We possibly may get a 2014 date instead of excepted 2013 date. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@BatmanBaleLoverwas just a guess I never said it was official, will know the voice actors of the decisions of Teletoon and Cartoon Network?--6teen (talk) 17:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Cartoon Network upfront said that all shows released in that article were 2013 shows, so we know this season is airing in 2013. Weerwooff (talk) 17:38, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, i forgot that. lol So, i guess Fall 2013 seems to be a real date. However, everything is possible, i mean TDRI was originally going to air in July 2011, then pushed to September, and finally to January 2012. If the productions gonna be delayed, we might not see the season this year. :3 I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'll be quite honest here and say that I think we'll be getting TDAS around the same time we got TDRI (January). That's just based on the fact that they just recently recorded Ep4. ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 17:53, February 3, 2013 (UTC)


I'm making this section for people to talk about what they like or love to see during this season. But anyway, I'd really like to see some of the contestants redesigned, and I'm not talking major redesigns, just like clothing or hair, because I'd think it be cool if we got some change from the same old, same old, especially since the contestants are to be older since TDI and TDRI (remember Chris was arrested after TDRI).--Zorua's Illusion 18:43, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Producers said no redesigns since it's too expensive and time consuming. Weerwooff (talk) 18:47, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I hope that there are aftermaths so we can see the characters who aren't competing on this season. I also hope that Lindsay, Izzy (if she is competing) and Mike make it far and Duncan and Gwen get eliminated early since both of them already made it to the final 2. --exitrus9000 talk 18:50, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Duncan and Gwen will make it far as usual since they are the top rated contestants by fans worldwide according to Cartoon Network, also no aftermaths since they said it's only 13 episodes and 13 characters Weerwooff (talk) 18:52, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

So is Owen, but he's not even competing! Damfectionist (talk) 19:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Exitrus: Same here. I hope they have aftermaths and that Bridgette and Geoff are hosting. NThree (talk contributions) 22:08, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, if there are 13 characters and at least one double elimination episode, then it's possible to have aftermaths. If there are 14 characters and two double eliminations, it's also possible. However I don't think that this is very likely. --exitrus9000 talk 22:15, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

True true... However, in my opinion, if they even have one single elimination for like three episodes in a row. Then we might get an aftermath, but that's not likely ether. NThree (talk contributions) 22:19, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

What We Have so Far

For those of you who are checking back and forth between multiple sections to see who's confirmed and who's not, I'll just lay it all out right here in this one section with all the evidence lined up, and with some circumstantial evidence to take educated guesses at who else might be in. Because, in all honesty, we have a vast majority of the cast for the first half already confirmed.

Confirmed by their respective voice actors in Christian Potenza's YouTube video: Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney Gwen, Heather, and Mike. (Video link:

Confirmed by their respective voice actors on other occasions: Duncan and Lightning

Duncan: Duncan_Confirmation.png

Tyrone Savage in S5

Lightning's confirmation, courtesy of Tyrone Savage.

Confirmed by scripts in the Christian Potenza video: Jo, Lindsay, and Sierra.


More Names

Lindsay's name is second from the top.

Sierra TDAS

Pretty obvious.

So, overall, that's 11 contestants. 11 out of 13. So only two spots remain, and I believe both spots can also be seen on the image I gave for Lindsay's confirmation. But let's backtrack for a moment here and summarize: We now have 4 TDR contestants, 5 original contestants, and the 2 TDWT newbies. So that means that we already have 6 newer contestants vs. 5 originals. So it could still either be 7 originals vs. 6 newbies, assuming that the last two spots are filled by original contestants. But let's take one more look at the names in the image above. Specifically, the name 5th from the top (or third from the bottom) and the name on the very bottom. As I covered in a previous section, the name 5th down has four letters and a "Y" at the end. The second-to-last letter is circular, like an "o, e," or "a." And the first letter is a vertical bar, which could either be an "I" or, if the script is just folded/rumpled slightly or sideways, could fill in for a "Z". So it's either Zoey or Izzy. In order to solve the riddle of which one, we must turn to the last name. It's three letters, so it must be either Sam or Eva. Now take into account that this is the list of Heroes. So, more than likely, it's Sam. But we must keep open the possibility of it being Eva, too. Becuase if Courtney could be labeled a hero, then anyone can be.

So, based on this evidence (no speculation involved), there are four possible answers to this. The cast could either be:

  • Both of the remaining spots are filled in by the TDR contestants (8 new, 5 old): Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, Lightning, Lindsay, Mike, Sam, Sierra, and Zoey.
  • Both of the remaining spots are filled by original contestants (7 old, 6 new): Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney, Duncan, Eva, Gwen, Heather, Izzy, Jo, Lightning, Lindsay, Mike, and Sierra.
  • One spot is filled by an original (Eva) and the other by a new one (Zoey): Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney, Duncan, Eva, Gwen, Heather, Jo, Lightning, Lindsay, Mike, Sierra, and Zoey.
  • One spot is filled by an original (Izzy) and the other by a new one (Sam): Alejandro, Cameron, Courtney, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Izzy, Jo, Lightning, Lindsay, Mike, Sam, and Sierra.

And again, based on the information received from the image, that would leave the team line-ups as the following (the order of bullets here is meant to parallel the order of bullets above, so the first bullet of team line-ups matches the first bullet of the possible cast above; also, the order of names for all the possible "Heroes" are based on the order seen in the image):

  • Heroes: Courtney, Lindsay, Sierra, Mike, Zoey, Cameron, and Sam. Villains: Alejandro, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, and Lightning.
  • Heroes: Courtney, Lindsay, Sierra, Mike, Izzy, Cameron, and Eva. Villains: Alejandro, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, and Lightning.
  • Heroes: Courtney, Lindsay, Sierra, Mike, Zoey, Cameron, and Eva. Villains: Alejandro, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, and Lightning.
  • Heroes: Courtney, Lindsay, Sierra, Mike, Izzy, Cameron, and Sam. Villains: Alejandro, Duncan, Gwen, Heather, Jo, and Lightning.

So this is a rather...interesting set of possibilities. Again, I personally don't see Eva as a Hero (or being in this season to begin with). But again, you can never know. The main reason I don't see it being Eva is for the sake of an even amount of both genders, as they always do in the series in such a cliche manner. If Sam was in, that'd be three guy heroes and four girl heroes. If Eva was in, that'd be five girls and two guys. And either way, the genders on the Villains team are already balanced out.

Feel free to add your own thoughts to this, as well as any other evidence you may have found, or something I might have overlooked. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 21:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Again, how do we even know there'll only be 13 contestants? Are we just basing it off the fact that there were 13 episodes with 13 contestants last season? ._. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 21:51, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I really hope it's Izzy instead of Zoey. I like them both but I prefer Izzy over her. --exitrus9000 talk 21:56, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed somewhere, TDA15. In an interview or something. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 21:57, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'll believe it when I see it. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 21:58, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

According to what I just saw, apparently Duncan is in it. NThree (talk contributions) 22:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I personally would also like to see more than 13, TDA15. I'd be satisfied with just 14; then it'd at least be even and we'd still have a few more possibilities for the remaining Villains. But realistically, how many can they have in a 13-episode season? I imagine no less than 13, and no more than 15 at the maximum. Unless they plan on having quite a few double eliminations and/or returns. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 22:11, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Fedora: It would be really great with 20 contestants imo, but I don't think that will happen. Maybe they can have 14. Like it was for TDA. NThree (talk contributions) 22:14, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Scott's also in this season according to the script and his VA. {The One}

I can't read any names at all in the villains part of the script, it's extremely blurry. --exitrus9000 talk 22:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

His name is right underneath Lightning's near the bottom right. Plus Sam and Zoey's name were shown on the list. Zoey is underneath Mike and Sam is underneath Cameron. It's easier to see. Owen and Dawn were NOWHERE to be seen on either team which indicates they will not compete this season. We have our cast.{The One}

I could read the heroes names, but not the villains. However I don't know if it's Zoey or Izzy, because it looks like Izzy to me since the first letter looks more vertical than diagonal. --exitrus9000 talk 22:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

It's Zoey. If you look carefully an "OE" is placed before the Y. {The One}

I can't see an "O" but I don't know if that is an "E" or a "Z", it can be either of them since it's really blurry and the camera was shaking, also the first letter does not look like a "Z", it looks like an "I". I hope that in the second part of the video, Christian confirms if it's Izzy or Zoey --exitrus9000 talk 23:04, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'll respect your decision let you find out for yourself in the second part of the video. But here's a hint: Look at it from ANOTHER angle then you'll see who it is. {The One}

This is what I think so far:

Alejandro: Even though he had a lot of screentime in TDWT, I think he deserves to be in this season. I'm OK with him being in this season. (I wonder if he's a cyborg now xD)

Cameron: Same as Al, but I have the feeling that he's going to be eliminated pretty soon, dunno why.

Courtney: I'm kinda sick of her,  so yeah, I don't like her being in the cast.

Duncan: No. Just no. He already had a huge amount of screentime. A terrible choice.

Gwen: If she's going to be exactly like she was back in TDWT, then NO. But, I hope a change of her. We'll see.

Heather: Queen of Mean is back. Also had a lot of screentime, but it doesn't annoys me that much, like Duncan.

Jo: I like Jo, she was a pretty good character in TDRI, and I think it'll be rather interesting seeing her interactions with the old competitors.

Lightning: Maybe a lot of people hate him here, but IMO he's pretty funny. A bit of an airhead, but gives us good laughs, and of course... Sha-bam!

Lindsay: I don't really know what to say... I don't think she's a bad choice, because she's a funny character, but... I dunno!

Mike: It was pretty obvious that he was going to be in another season. But he was one of my favorites in TDRI, along with Dawn and Brick. Also, I think that he'll develop a new personality... Probably that "evil" one we saw in Grand Chef Auto?

Sierra: I didn't like her in TDWT, but my opinion of her can change, since Cody doesn't compete.

As for the characters that have possibilites of being in TDAS but have not been confirmed:

Izzy: Her interactions with the mixed cast would be a bomb. I hope she makes it in this season.

Sam: If he's in the season, it's ok. If he isn't, it's ok too.

Scott: Good choice, his interactions with other antagonists could be reaaally interesting. If, he manages to get out of that machine. xD

Zoey: Mmm... No.

That's all! P.S: I wanted Dawn and Brick to be in! u_u "Just beware of Eels" (talk) 00:34, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

@NoahOutbreak I know it's your opinion and all, but there's STILL a chance that Cody is going to be in this season. 'Nuff said. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 00:41, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Dude... Cody is NOT coming back. Not trying to be mean but get over it. The max they'll do for him is give the guy a cameo because of Sierra but other than that he's not coming back. He wasn't on the script and if they were to add anyone else it would be Owen or Dawn but it's very unlikely as the list is final. {The One}

Look, "The One" just because we didn't see Cody's name in the script from CP's latest video, DOESN'T mean he's not going to be in this season. We still need some kind of confirmation of Cody's participation in this season. Lets NOT jump to conclusions, K? What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 01:28, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

To each their own. {The One}

This is probably the best section I have ever seen. It totally wraps up all the news we have gotten so far and explains all of it. Thank you, Fedora Kid for posting this! :D Weerwooff (talk) 04:49, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

You're quite welcome, Weerwooff. It's been a while since I've gotten such appreciation for posting on this Talk Page. :) --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 04:56, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

I can't see Lindsay's name at all, it's just a blur. Can someone PLEASE highlight it for me? Thanks. Also, I guess we can sort of confirm Zoey and Sam are participating, Zoey I can see competing since she ranked 3rd last season, but Sam, really?  I just hope he has some major developement. And I'm not setting for another cheesy stereotypical cliche like, a video-game geek wins the heart of a girl again, there better be a twist. What is confusing me IS how Sierra is on Heroes. Chris could probably feel some sympathy for Courtney, with Gwen Heather and Duncan being on an opposing team IS a slight hint, but still, Sierra on Heroes? Chris is self-centred, and I can't imagine he'd forgive her after the final few episodes of TDWT. InspectorDrama (talk) 17:19, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

If you have an LCD monitor, just move your head really low and you will see the screen go darker and see Lindsay's name better. Weerwooff (talk) 20:04, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Zoey was confirmed in the second All-Star video, sorry Izzy fans. KingToddI (talk) 13:13, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


Can someone please ask Izzy's voice actress about her participation? She is the best character, and it won't be Total Drama without her in some way in it. Brendon82498 22:26, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I've asked Tom, but he hasn't gotten to me for two weeks. Fluffy pancakes being my only friend is not scary. 22:58, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it would be kinda cool if Izzy's in it. Maybe we should find if she's confirmed or not. NThree (talk contributions) 02:08, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

She's probably not in. Most people are saying that it's Zoey who has the last spot. Weerwooff (talk) 05:28, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Zoey was confirmed in the second All-star video, sorry. KingToddI (talk) 13:14, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Cody competing and what will sierra do?

Alot of people saying cody isnt competeing but sierra will be a new person heres two ways it can go

1.Cody could compete since sierra will annoy everyone and or be the baddie of the season

2. could be a fan of someone like mike or cameron now

3. or will just cry her eyes out and get out first

wouldnt this show that cody has about 50/50 chance of competeing for some reason on the scripts i say Y and somewhat a D on a name  on the Hero side G'day Sheila! Names Manitoba Smith! Here leave the torches to the menfolk beauty. (talk) 04:10, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well it's either Izzy, Zoey or Cody who is taking the last spot since all 3 are 4-letter names and have a Y in the end. Weerwooff (talk) 04:46, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

It could possibly be Zoey. Because if you squint real good, the last two letters look like an e and y. And since Mike is confirmed to compete in this season of Total Drama, it would just make more sense. As for Cody, it would make sense for him to compete to as well since Sierra is confirmed to compete but if he isn't, Chris better make sure Sierra has some paramedics just in case she freaks out and passes out. Fluffy pancakes being my only friend is not scary. 05:10, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Who's this seasons baddie?

I think it's reasonable to say that the villian is a good chunk of every season. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that the centeral villian is the most important character, and even (arguably, of course) the main character for their season. For example, I almost always think of Heather when someone brings up TDI. I think of Courtney's PDA when someone says "TDA", etc.

Now let's cut the tail on the donkey here and ask the question that I've cleverly labeled this topic for. In a Hereos vs. Villians season...who exactly is the central character? Will he or she be as memorable as the last villians? Is he or she clever, interesting, and manipulative enough for such a role? Is there even going to be a single villian role, or will it be a collaborative group of villians? (which is ironically equivalant to having no villian at all, in the long run)? Who do you think this character is, and what qualities do you think she or he can bring to the table?

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm going to guess Mike.

That's right. Sweet loveable innocient crazy Mike.

As cliched and unoriginal as this sounds, I sincerly believe that the "evil Mike" goof at the end of TDRI is more than just a glitch. I honestly doubt that the devolopers forgot to take that out. Animation requires preception, and they are much more savvy than you think they'd might be. Sure there could be some goofs such as a missing leg or a wrong eye color or something, but this is an actually head! It would be quite an accomplishment to accidentally draw something that isn't supposed to be there.

I'm rambling now, but I think you know where I'm going with this. Yes, I think that Mike's MPD comes back, and now Mike's meaner, badder and nastier than ever before!

Now let me point out that I do NOT think that Mike will be the villian from the getgo. I think the Villian team would be the central villians at the point. When the merge comes, however, I think evil Mike will take over and "unleash his true colors," maybe break Zoey's heart, who knows. Nobody likes Zoey anyway (except for me. :....( )

My original guess was Jo, for the reccord. I thought she was perfect for an antagonistic role, but I'm convinced she's eliminated premerge. Before the cast was revelaed and it was just Heros vs. Villians, I thought for sure Eva was going to be THE villian. It's a PERFECT opportunity to have her as the villian here!!! But no, the producers apparantly hates me.

Anyway, just out of curiosity and to spark some interesting conversations, who do you think (if you think there is one) going to be THE villian this season? Damfectionist (talk) 09:28, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

I am gonna say that Alejandro is gonna be the villain now that he's back. I would love to see how he takes care of the new TDRI contestants. Also, some villains might not be villains, since many people say that Duncan, Courtney and Gwen aren't really villains nor heroes, so we'll see. As for Heather, she might be a main role too. Mike however like you say, he wasn't that good of a character anyway, his MPD was lame and just a failed attempt to make a boring design look cool. Maybe Scott or Alejandro will eliminate him early this time. Weerwooff (talk) 09:33, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

I would personally hate it if this seasons central villian is a villian that was already a previous central villian. It's just lazy and crazy unoriginal. Although, I frankly won't put it past them to make Alejandro the main villian again. I would support a main villian group over a previous villian anyday.

It would be an interesting twist to have someone from the Heros tribe (Not Courtney! :P) be the villian. I also thought that Zoey might be a villian too, but this is assuming she goes over the edge and loses it again as she did in TDRI. Damfectionist (talk) 09:48, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

God, I hope not. I hope Mike goes early so we see as little of that MPD stupidity as possible. They really seemed to be running out of ideas when they came up with this character. :/ 

Alejandro should be the villain again. He's not as good a villain as Heather but if they turn Heather fully evil again it would completely RUIN the positive character development she got in TDWT. Just make her a snarky egotist and leave it that.

Scott was just a completely pathetic failure of a villain. I hope he goes early as well. FloridaMan (talk) 13:09, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe Mike debuts a new evil personality and becomes the main antagonist, even though he is on the heroes team, because I don't know if they would repeat the same villain as the main one for two seasons. --exitrus9000 talk 13:12, February 4, 2013 (UTC)


OMG, another new video!!! :D

Total Drama All-Stars session pt07:43

Total Drama All-Stars session pt. 2

Yay! Zoey is confirmed and they talk about Part 2 of TDAS! Weerwooff (talk) 23:13, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well I guess that means that there will be no Cody or Izzy or anyone else who is not confirmed since there's only 13 contestants. I guess the characters are set, but I'm more exited to see the new contestants and how they will look like. :) Weerwooff (talk) 23:31, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

So All-Stars is only 13 episodes and the other 13 with the new cast is seperate Brendon82498 23:40, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, but I don't get why the whole season is called All-Stars when only the first half will be all-stars :P Weerwooff (talk) 23:43, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Yay, Zoey! :D Well, at least one of my faves in confirmed. @Weerwooff, they're obviously counting both halves as two different seasons. The new cast will be considered season 6.Gerty is in da howse! 23:46, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I meant. So All-Stars is 13 episodes, Season 6 is 13 with the new cast. Brendon82498 23:48, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Hold those horses! Season 6? I thought that this was all Season 5, since they said that Season 5 has 26 episodes. Weerwooff (talk) 23:55, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

That's what there saying, is it's TDAS was originally 26, split in two halfs, but now its just two different seasons. Brendon82498 23:59, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff Whoa! Whoa! So far, we have Mike, Cameron, Zoey, Lightning, Alejandro, Sierra, Duncan, Gwen, Courtney, Jo, Lindsay and Heather who are confirmed that are going to be in this season, which is a total of 12 characters. We still have ONE more spot which I'm hoping its still Cody. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 00:23, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

When was it confirmed that there'll only be 13 contestants? If they want to have one contestant eliminated in every episode (W/o anyone returning), they would need 14. Plus, they could even do 15 if they wanted to do a double-elim. ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 00:25, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I keep asking Katie Crown (Izzy) but to no avail is she answering Craytonmcbr 00:28, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad that Zoey's back! She along with Mike, Cameron, Gwen, Heather, and Sierra will hopefully help outweigh the crap! ThomasVeggieDramaFan (talk) 00:31, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

The final contestant is Sam. Cody is not returning. Damfectionist (talk) 00:40, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Since when did Sam have been confirmed? What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 00:45, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

@Codykins, he was confirmed in the image of the script. He was the last name in the Heroic Hamsters. It had 3 letters. And only 2 people have 3 letters, Eva and Sam. Sam is more likely the hero. And because it's 3, Cody is definitely not it whether it be actually Eva or Sam. OXJoshOx (talk) 01:18, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still not convinced. I'm still waiting for a REAL confirmation of Cody's participation in this season.What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 01:25, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

i think  the new cast are 6 boys and 7 girls and this seasin ill be in the island again TrentTDWT.Cool - Total Drama Series Fan 02:04, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

@OXJoshOx Don't bother explaining it anymore to him. He really believes Cody will return even though there's been next to no information about the guy. Sam is returning due to that pic you mentioned and the last person who's coming back is Scott due to his name being underneath Lightning's. If one looks at the villain side more carefully you'll be able to make out some of the players from the bottom right. {The One}

Well I hope that Cody is still in it since Sierra is in it too, and not having Cody would be really bad for this season, so it better not be Sam, I really want Cody taking that last spot! :D Weerwooff (talk) 03:04, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry everyone, I have some bad news for some people: Sam & Lindsay aren't confirmed, what was THOUGHT to be their names was on a super blurry shot of the script, and there was light shining in the window. It is much more likely that Owen will compete instead of Sam, because he WON a season, has been in 59 episodes, and is the creator's favorite. 

So with all that we could still see their names clearly.. Like cmon now. They're on the script, the window's light didn't have that much effect on it. Granted it was still blurry but I doubt shining could make everyone see ANOTHER contestant's name instead and just letting you know Sam's name was shown on the Episode 4 script recap so it sorta defeats your assumption. {The One}


Wouldn't be the first time the first generation cast is interacting with the second generation cast? Just thought that should be in the trivia. I'm the only one who loved Heather from the beginning She is awesome! 00:55, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

The first and second generation cast interacted in some of the longer cameos in TDRI i.e. Bridgette and Dakota in Backstabbers Ahoy, Ezekiel and Anne Maria in A Mine is a Terrible Thing to waste, and Zoey and Heather in Up, Up, and Away in my Pitiful Balloon. Although this is the first time they have both competed together. UioRevolution (talk) 01:23, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

This is the first time that they will compete together, but they already interacted way back in TDRI. Weerwooff (talk) 03:05, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

No Cody but Sierra?

I was watching the new video with Christian Potenza where he was doing the interview with Sierra's voice actor, and I was noticing that all Sierra talked about was Cody, Cody, Cody. So I was thinking that maybe that means that Cody is in it too? Cuz I just can't imagine Sierra being in the show without Cody, and not after Cody and Sierra were starting a relationship at the end of TDWT, so I hope that Chris is not mean this time and boots Cody out cuz that would be sad for everyone. I love Cody more than anything and he is my favorite character ever since I first watched TDI and a season without Cody would be horrible for me, so let's hope that he's in. Weerwooff (talk) 03:01, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm giving Annick the benefit of the doubt and that she just is really in tune with her character. Actors tend to spend their morning routine becoming their character prior to acting afterall. She's just unleashing typical crazy Sierra.

Also, Sierra's just a voice actress. I mean it's possible that Cody might return midseason by some weird twist or something but honestly, she really has just as much as an idea if Cody will return as Obama does. Damfectionist (talk) 03:57, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry but weren't you the one who complained about Season 5 having 'Screen hogs' (If not then just ignore me.). So Cody is not a 'screen hog'? He was great in Season 1, was eliminated because of stupid injury. Season 3 was almost his, he almost won and had more character devolopment than some people. And Cody still is not a 'screen hog'? Wow Hypercryte much.

Levani22 (talk) 04:40, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

No, Cody is not a screen hog since he is not in the Top 10 most viewed list. A screen hog is someone who is in the Top 10 list and is not a TDRI contestant. This includes Owen, Duncan, Heather, Courtney, Gwen, Lindsay, Trent, Leshawna, Izzy and Harold. Weerwooff (talk) 05:10, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Right, because anyone who hasn't competed since TDA and anyone who is one of the first people eliminated are definite screen hogs... Damfectionist (talk) 05:16, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

When I think of "screen hogs", five characters immediately come to mind: Duncan, Owen, Courtney, Heather, and Gwen. Izzy and Harold aren't "screen hogs" because even though they've competed in all three seasons featuring the original cast, they've gotten nowhere near the amount of screen time as the aforementioned characters. Izzy has never made it that far in any season she's been in and Harold only made it far in TDA. FloridaMan (talk) 05:22, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Cody? First person eliminated? Uh...TDWT? He almost got the same amount of screentime as Heather and Alejando. When you guys complain that screen hogs are in the season, instead of picking Cody, who had decent amount of screen time and devolopment , you should pick people like Eva, Katie and Sadie, Tyler, Beth and others and then I'll be able to understand the reason to complain. Well, sorry for coming out like an ass but so much negetive reception annoys me. I understand and get the point to be mad at producers but aren't you all happy that we are getting a new season and total drama new episodes? Levani22 (talk) 10:49, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

If my favorite characters aren't in the season, that kind of takes away a HUGE chuck of my enjoyability of it. I didn't expect all of them to be in it but I at least expected one or two of them to be among the cast and the writers have succeeded in snubbing virtually all of them. Quite an accomplishment, I must say. :( FloridaMan (talk) 11:11, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I understand of course. Some of my own favs also didn't get in but I admit I am a fan of Heather, Cournty and Gwen. The thing that I'm dissapointed in is that we only get 13 out of the old crew. If they had all of Season 1 characters it would have been awesome. But I guess they are tired with the old cast and just made Season 5 to end them for good. (Why else would they make Part 2 have a  totally new cast.). If we had all the TDI chars in Season 5 with 24 Episodes it would have been a blast. I don't really dislike any Total Drama character so I'm happy with just having them but shame on Eva, Katie and Saide. Okay Katie and Sadie might have been a little boring but Eva had potentional and she was wasted. But I guess we just have to deal with it. I'm super excited on the new season and I can't wait to get more news. Levani22 (talk) 11:29, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well, Cody is not a screen hog. He got eliminated way too early in TDI, didn't compete at all in TDA, and won't even compete again in TDAS, and we might never see him ever again. Now compare that to Duncan who has made it at least to the Final 4 in every season while I bet that we will see another 26 episodes of Duncan and Courtney fighting again and will get insane ratings since everyone loves all-stars like Owen, Courtney, Duncan, Gwen and Heather and hates all the good characters like Cody, Beth, Tyler and Noah. Also, I agree the Eva should of been in the show, she could of been a perfect Villain. Weerwooff (talk) 13:14, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well compared to Duncan, Heather and Owen , Cody really is left in the corner . But he did get far better treatment than some people. Levani22 (talk) 13:38, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Season 6

Let me get this straight, I heard people say that Season 5 is only gonna be 13 episodes and Part 2 with the new characters is actually Season 6. Can someone please explain this to me? I don't get what you mean. Weerwooff (talk) 04:04, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I think they are referencing Christian's youtube video, 6:53, specifically.

They don't outright say Season 6, but it's pretty much implied that Season 6 is going to feature 13 all new contestants. So either these are the 13 contestants that was supposed to be in the second half of Season 5 (most likely). Or they could be cleverly hinting at a new NEW 13 contestants for Season 6. I seriously doubt that though. Damfectionist (talk) 04:10, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Whoa, well if that's true then that explains this being called "All-Stars" since it's only 13 episodes long and only contains 13 all-stars. In that case, Season 5 should be completed very shortly, just in time for the summer, and Season 6 will introduce an entire new cast. That is so cool! :D Weerwooff (talk) 04:14, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Is Lindsay In TDAS

Is Lindsay actually in Total Drama All-Stars

everybody is saying that Lindsay's name is on the script but is it really or are people just saying that.

does anyone have real evidance that Lindsay's in.

Are there any real posters that have the full cast for season 5.

If there is post it. Cosiochru (talk) 19:28, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, that screenshot is the only evidence that Lindsay is in, but at least that script is official. Weerwooff (talk) 19:33, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I hope Lindsay is in, She is one of the funnist characters on the show! :P Liamliamliam (talk) 19:45, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I hope Lindsay's in too, but if your saying she's on the script. Can you post or show the proven source? (; NThree (talk contributions) 21:25, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hamster Confirmation
Lookie here, you can see Lindsay's name on the top of the Heroes list Weerwooff (talk) 21:35, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, she was already confirmed. One more thing, YAY! xD Fluffy pancakes being my only friend is not scary. 21:37, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

So Lindsay's name is on the script, which means she's in. :) NThree (talk contributions) 21:39, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

A camp withot Lindsay for me is not funny, she is one of the best for me and also I want Leshawna in this season



Is it just 13 campers or will someone else join later on in total drama all stars.

And if another camper is joining who would it be.

Yes, it's just 13 all-stars, but there will be 13 new characters also on Season 6 which will be 26 total this year Weerwooff (talk) 20:09, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry for asking a stupid question but are you guys assuming there are thirteen contestants this season or was it confirmed, because I need some clarification. Zorua's Illusion 20:31, February 5, 2013 (UTC) - Skip to 2:49 and look at the script and count the characters, there are 13 Weerwooff (talk) 20:33, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

So I'm taking that as you guys are assuming there are 13, because I saw that script, and, not to be rude, but you guys are kinda jumping the gun that there are 13. You only get a brief glimpse, and even if you were to pause or freeze-frame, it's still blurry. You guys are jumping the gun and making too much spectulation. So far, the blurry script is the weakest evidence for 13 contestants. Zorua's Illusion 20:49, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

They never implied anything about season 6. Besides, Tom McGillis said himself the 13 new characters would be for the remaining 13 episodes. I don't think that was referencing any "season 6". Wattamack4 (talk) 20:57, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm SUPER excited Sam is competing. Totaldramafangeek9 (talk) 02:10, February 6, 2013 (UTC)Totaldramafangeek9

Season 5 Character Conclusion

Poster from postermywallAllStars
Okay, now that everyone is confirmed, here is a list of all the 13 characters who are going to compete and as the title says, these 13 are now "all-stars"!
  1. Alejandro
  2. Cameron
  3. Courtney
  4. Duncan
  5. Gwen
  6. Heather
  7. Jo
  8. Lightning
  9. Lindsay
  10. Mike
  11. Sam
  12. Sierra
  13. Zoey

Do you think that they should be called all-stars, since the producers think so. Anyway, here are the new teams for Season 5:

  • Cameron
  • Gwen
  • Lindsay
  • Mike
  • Sam
  • Sierra
  • Zoey
  • Alejandro
  • Courtney
  • Duncan
  • Heather
  • Jo
  • Lightning
  • Scott

So what do you think? Do you like the teams? Are you exited for Season 5? Do you think that it was worth it to wait 21/2 years for this season since it was first rumored? I think so! :D Weerwooff (talk) 19:57, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

This season the eliminations are going to be predictable for the first few episodes, it is most likely that winners like Cameron, Heather and Duncan are going to be eliminated 1st. I would like the top 2 to either be Lindsay/Sierra Vs. Mike/Sam. i know that it is unlikely that Sam will win but i wouldnt be disapointed with him winning as these people aren't like main characters (Excluding Mike) and/or screen hogs. i dont want another season of Courtney Vs Gwen over Duncan. Liamliamliam (talk) 20:04, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Ok first off there's NOT 13 campers its 14. Read the script one more time and you'll see a little shadow parallel to Sam's name who's supposed to be the 7TH Hero. Secondly, Courtney is on the HEROIC HAMSTERS.... for now... look at the script. Don't jump the gun so soon especially since there's more to this season we still don't know about {The One}

I'm still confident that Cody will be in this season. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 21:47, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I would love Cody to comepete too, but sadly all the 7 spots for Team Heroes are filled up already, and unless Cody is a villain this time, he won't be coming back anytime soon until Super Bowl L if there is a Season 7. :( Sometimes you just have to let go of the past and try to move on with your life. The life expectancy for a person born in the 1990's is about 150-200, so we are gonna be here for a very long time, and we don't want Cody to get us sad during that time, don't we? Weerwooff (talk) 21:51, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Um guys I know we said that the first 13 eps are with this cast but where was it confirmed that only 13 are competeing? If I missed it somewhere sorry xD 21:53, February 5, 2013 (UTC)MilaYin (1,799)(talk)

The script on this video: on (2:50) Weerwooff (talk) 21:57, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

No way Cody's competing. Unless, he gets thrown in mid-season like Courtney and Blainley, but with 13 contestants and 13 episodes only, I doubt they'd do that. That would mean their would have to be a triple elimination somewhere.

Maybe it's better this way. Sierra kind of ruined Cody for me. Damfectionist (talk) 22:31, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

lol what if new rumors start spreading that Cody is going to debut halfway --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 22:33, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Has Scott been confirmed for this season yet? Damfectionist (talk) 22:37, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

yes --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 22:38, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Beyond Chris's "say hello to my metal friend" quote"?

Edit: but if Scott is confirmed then that upsets the 13 contestants only rule...if one entertains that notion though, the teams will have equal members. Courntey has been confirmed to, at least somepoint, be on the Heroes team. I agree that Gwen has more heroic qualities than villianious ones, but with her recent controversy last season, for GxD action, and for more GxH conflict, I wouln't be surprised if she is placed on the villians team.

I will admit though that Courtney being on the Heroes team has caught me totally off guard, and no one knows Courtney better than me...I'm her number 1 fan!!! :D [/uneeded trivia]

Here's a list of a more accurate cast. Including the possibility of Scott returning.

  • Cameron
  • Courtney
  • Lindsay
  • Mike
  • Sam
  • Sierra
  • Zoey
  • Alejandro
  • Gwen
  • Duncan
  • Heather
  • Jo
  • Lightning
  • Scott

Damfectionist (talk) 22:41, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Also, for what it's worth, if Scott does return, then that makes it even further improbable of Cody returning. Sorry, Codykinds. =/ Damfectionist (talk) 22:52, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Where was Scott confirmed? ._. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 23:04, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

He's not confirmed to compete yet, he's just mentioned as Chris' metal friend. Weerwooff (talk) 23:08, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

That could mean anything... TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 23:13, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

How isnt Owen in this season. He's the producers fav, won TDI, and always goes far. I would say he's the biggest all-star of all.Tdwtfan555 (talk) 23:21, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure that when Christian said "Say hello to my metal friend" he ment to Al. Also, one quick thing, Sam and Scot are not confirmed and I'm 100% sure that Cody will be in this season. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 23:23, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe Owen gets blown up again just how he did in TDRI Weerwooff (talk) 23:25, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

If there's a 14th character, then I really doubt that it's Scott. This is an All-Star season, and for that, it would make most sense that the characters that have been there the most would be on. We already have 6 of the new characters there, but only 5 of the original cast that last for three seasons all twice as long as the new one. Duncan is currently the only boy of the original 11 boys. If there's a 14th character, it should be one of the other 10 original boys. Owen would make the most sense because he truly is an all-star, and easily the most iconic character the show has, well other than maybe Chris. Thinking about it, I don't think we should count these 13 as entirely confirmed yet.Ctesjbuvf (talk) 23:32, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

You know what I just thought, now that Tyler is gone, Lindsay should totally get with Cameron since they are both single :) Weerwooff (talk) 23:39, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff That is the most crack-ship TD couple I've ever heard. More-so than DakotaxSam ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 23:45, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well Cameron is the only guy available, since Duncan got Gwen and Courtney, Alejandro has Heather, Mike has Zoey, Sam has Dakota and even Lightning was starting something with Jo, so Cam is the only guy in Season 5 who NEVER had a relationship, and if I were Cam, and the choices were Lindsay and Sierra, you probably know the most logic choice unless you wanna be with an annoying stacker :P Weerwooff (talk) 23:53, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff Well, hope Sierra stands the time without her love and in the end they come together!!!!!Zoke coderra (talk) 00:06, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwoooff Uh dude, Lindsay is with Tyler. :P And Lightning and Jo never had "anything" lol. NoahRileyM (talk) 01:20, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

@Codykins I don't see any evidence of Cody being a contestant. How can you be so confident that he is? Damfectionist (talk) 03:12, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Guys, stop crushing his/her dreams :) Let him/her believe what he/she wants. OXJoshOx (talk) 03:20, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Having high hopes is fine. I have no problems with that. The issue lies in that his thesis is entirely based on a presupposition without any evidence. Discussing possibilities is fine, but I'd rather focus on probabilities.  Damfectionist (talk) 03:23, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

If you guys skip to 2:50 on the first video look at the Villains side. I know its blurry but if you really focus you can make out Lightning near the bottom right. Right underneath his is a person who has 5 letters in his/her name evidence as it matches up to the word length of LIGHT. What villain has FIVE letter in his/her name? Scott... plus the beginning video shows what could be James Wallis looking at his script. Scott's the 14th contestant. {The One}

Scott wouldn't have a voice actor if he's still in the suit. Damfectionist (talk) 21:52, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

(reads the above) @Ryan: Yes, it would be cool if Cody debuted, but Noah would be even cooler. lol ;) NThree (talk contributions) 21:56, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Who's gonna win TDAS

Who's gonna win TDAS

I want Lindsay to win because she so funny and dumb.

I wouldn't mind if Zoey or Sam won.

I hope Courtney or Duncan don't win.

Well we all know Jo can't win because she gets eliminated in epiosode 3.

So who will winCosiochru (talk) 07:53, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

We barely even know who's on which team. There would be little evidence to support either side, winning or losing.

However, here's my list of people who I feel is least likely to win to most likely.

Also, this is assuming that Scott is NOT competeting.

  • Jo
  • Cameron
  • Lightning
  • Heather
  • Alejandro
  • Duncan
  • Gwen
  • Sierra
  • Mike
  • Zoey
  • Courtney
  • Sam
  • Lindsay

I'm convinced that Jo is eliminated fairly early due to Chris's line on episode 4. Cameron and Lightning are my next too who I'm equally convinced that are not going to win because they've both technically won already in their own season. I seriously doubt that Total Drama would have duplicate winners, let alone back-to-back winners. For this reason, Heather to Gwen is there for the same reason. But Gwen is last on the list because she "won" in Season One and not too many countries have seen her win. Sierra is after Gwen because I do not think that she will be in the game very long. In fact I see her as the number one person voted off because I can't imagine her without Cody, so unless the writers put some hardcore devolopment into her, I don't see her going far.

This is the line between people I think who WILL NOT win (above) and people who I believe have a shot of winning (below)

Mike. I originally have him right below Lindsay, but I sincerly think that he's going to be the next antagonist due to his MPD and since the mainantagoinsts currently have a 1:4 ratio, he's the least likely of the most likely to win.

Zoey is there because while I think her relationship with Mike is going to be dragged out far into the game, I feel that her time in TDRI is already far enough. Third place is not a spot to sneeze at, Zoey. You should be proud! Anyway, I think the writers like her too much to disgard her early in the game. She might win if Mike is the main antagonist though.

Courtney. Okay, I know I'm going to be receiving a lot of hate mail here, but seriously just hear me out here. I orginally had Courtney way WAY lower on my possibility list, but the recent confirmation of her being on the heros team has made me turn over a new leaf. Why is Courtney a hero? What did she do that inspired Chris to swap her? Was she even the one who inspired Chris in the first place? We don't know! What we do know is that there's an apparant villian on the heros team now. The producers wouldn't do that just for nothing. They defiantly have something special planned for Courtney and I'd love to see what they cooked up for her. Courtney win, please!! Everyone, vote for Courtney!! <3

Sam, mostly because of his early dismissal in TDRI. He's the lowest ranking returnee from TDRI, and way pick him and not a technically more heroic TDRI like Brick? While to some, Sam may be a filler, to me he's a character who's screaming character devolopment, which as we know takes time to devolope. I see him going farther than he did his own season.

Lindsay, Lindsay has been the mock puppet this entire season. It's pretty obvious the writers adore her, but for some reason keep screwing up her chances of winning. Her bimbo dumb idiocy in a real-life All-Stars situation is a complete joke--yes, we are all estatic that Lindsay is back but in a real life All-Star, people would be screaming at Chris right now because let's face it, idiocy is not a quality of an All-Star. And what better way to have someone who is not an All-Star in any sense of the word win Total Drama All-Star? Wouldn't be surprised if Lindsay wins at all, and I'm currently supportive of her winning, although I despretly want Courtney to win.

Someone let me know if I'm too biased with my analysis. I've been told I tend to overestimate Courtney while underestimating everyone else. Damfectionist (talk) 08:25, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

I wish that Lindsay wins, she is my favorite character. --exitrus9000 talk 11:24, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Duncan and Courtney better not make it far again, cus seeing 13 episodes of Duncan, Gwen and Courtney fighting again won't be so great and you guys know that the ratings for TDAT weren't so good, so yeah, if I were to chose a character to win, then it would be Lindsay since she is pretty and she needs to win once. Weerwooff (talk) 16:15, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sierra's going to be in at least the first 4 episodes, according to that picture of an episode 4(food fright) script. It shows chris' dialog and sierras is under it, the pic is in one of the topics on this talk page. Joeyz1113 (talk) 01:30, February 9, 2013 (UTC)


In the first and fourth season, we didn't see any Aftermath episodes since it took place on Camp Wawanakwa. As we know, TDAS will take place on the island, once again. So, Do you think we might see a come back of Aftermath this season ? I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Probably not... Damfectionist (talk) 19:43, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, no aftermaths again. Only 13 episodes just like TDRI, and I think that the producers want an elimination in every episode again and no specials or reward challenges, since that's what most people like, eliminations in every episode. No wonder the ratings for TDI and TDRI "exploded" as Tom McGillis said. :P Weerwooff (talk) 20:42, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I think they should at least have a one hour special with all contestants and then have some sort of challenge to determine who's in TDAS. Kinda like a sep up thing for the next season. But it's highly unlikely for it to happen. But they should have another special though, again idk. NThree (talk contributions) 22:02, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

A special would have been confirmed by now. It's not happening. Damfectionist (talk) 22:03, February 6, 2013 (UTC)


Do you guys think this season will have cameos? I hope it does. If there is cameos, who do you wanna see? I hope to see Cody, Brick, Leshawana, Trent, Beth, Brick, Owen, Bridgette and Geoff Tdwtfan555 (talk) 20:22, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Don't forget Dawn! ;) Liamliamliam (talk) 20:39, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

I wanna see every single person who doesn't compete, even if they don't speak. Weerwooff (talk) 20:43, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

If there are any cameos I hope they end up using everyone who didn't cameo in TDRI and everyone who isn't competing in TDAS. Can I go play in that guy's van? Sha Please! 21:18, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

I hope leshawna will be a cameo Misterunknown (talk) 21:43, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Oh those characters would be awesome in cameos. :) NThree (talk contributions) 22:04, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

JUST COUNT ON THE PEOPLE MADE YOU HAPPY!!!!!! Zoke coderra (talk) 22:10, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm starting to think that all the voice actors who said "maybe" and aren't confirmed, might end up being on a cameo. Weerwooff (talk) 22:23, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

All of the charcters should return for the finale Liamliamliam (talk) 22:29, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, just like the TDWT finale. That would be awesome to see Katie & Sadie again and even Staci and Eva. Then we can burn up all the 38 contestants on another volcano for an epic finale, and then let the new characters take over on Part 2 of TDAS. Weerwooff (talk) 22:53, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry @Weerwooff i knew you maltreated Cody due to the anger of you since you noticed he is not in the cast.

@TDWTfan you said Brick twice... Dang it he needs more screen time... [[User:Ultimatechocofan/Ultimatechocofan]] 23:54, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Episodes / Seasons

It was confirmed that there are two, 13 episode seasons and not one 26 episode season, so can someone update the Total Drama All-Stars page? Brendon82498 23:12, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Uh, when was it confirmed that this wasn't a 26 episode season?--Bigez620 - Peace, Love, Laser Squirrel 23:36, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Show us the link, dude. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 23:37, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

In the video, part 2, he said that the episodes with the new cast was a seperate season. Brendon82498 23:49, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Uuum... That's part of the season, dude. What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 00:04, February 8, 2013 (UTC).

...they ask if there is life BEYOND Season 5. She said abosolutely and said that there would be 13 new contestants. That's confirmation of Season 5 only having 13 episodes and not a Part 1/Part 2 Season which doesn't even make sense anyway.

She meant life BEYOND ALL-STARS genius, meaning beyond the first half and whats after the first half?? The second half. {The One}

No, by BEYOND, they meant another season. All-Stars is 13 episodes with returning characters and Season 6 will be 13 with a new cast. Brendon82498 02:03, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, you're not really getting this, are you? What's uuuup?!!! It's Codykins 02:11, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

@Codykins Don't worry when the second half begins he'll finally get it. {The One}

Here, let me explain. Cartoon network ordered a 26 episodes of total drama. This doesn't mean that 26 will be a whole season. Instead, Fresh TV has decided that they will split this into 2. The first 13 episodes of the 26 will be treated as one season, probably airing over the summer of 2013. Then,  the other 13 episodes will be treated as a completely new season with a new cast, probably airing over the summer of 2014. So yes, both seasons are under the season 5 production code, but this doesn't necessirly mean that it's an entire season. Instead, the 26 episodes will be split into two completely unrelated seasons. I hope this answered your question. I'm the only one who loved Heather from the beginning She is awesome! 02:43, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

@PikminPlay, thank you, that was exactly what I was trying to say Brendon82498 03:57, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Then if both parts are under the Season 5 production code, then why is the whole thing called All-Stars when clearly only the first half is all-stars. I think that Part 2 is actually Season 6. Weerwooff (talk) 04:26, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Part 2 is Season 6. That's what I've been saying all along. Also, The One, I'm well aware that she meant life outside All Stars. I don't know what made you think I meant otherwise. Damfectionist (talk) 06:21, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Part 2 is NOT the true Season 6 why is that hard to understand? They may consider it a "mini season" after All-Stars(Part 1) but other than that they've said it many times its part of Season 5 hence the 26 episodes. Not my idea its THEIRS. {The One}

They only said that they ordered 26 more new episodes, they never said that all those episodes were for Season 5, and it's nothing new to make two new seasons back to back. They did it with the Lord of the Rings, the Matrix, Kill Bill, and even Avatar 2 and 3. Weerwooff (talk) 07:16, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Well, for who thinks that these parts are different seasons, they're wrong. These 26 episodes are all from TDAS, there's no season 6 yet. Also, This is the first season of the series to have 2-parts, unlike previous seasons. I give you an Epic example to know what two-part series or movie is. "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows had 2-parts movie since the book had many pages. Part one was released in 2010, while Part two was released in 2011. " This is what TDAS looks like. It has 2 parts, Part one will feature All-stars mix of old and new cast WHILE Part two will feature a whole of new cast. Hope it helps. :) BatmanBaleLover (talk) 07:38, February 8, 2013 (UTC) 

Everyone keeps on insisting that they've said many times that All Stars is split into two parts, but I've yet to see any real evidence of it. To me, it's just people spreading rumors when they find out that All Stars is only 13 episodes and yet 26 episodes are ordered by Fresh. That doesn't prove that All Stars has two parts. That just means that we currently have 13 inexplicable "dead" episodes and that these episdoes feature 13 new contestants and that it is, as quoted, BEYOND All*Stars. Beyond All*Stars is almost a guarenteed different season. Why would these 13 new contestants be consiered an "All*Star" anyway if they've never even played? Harry Potter is a pretty poor comparision because that example is directly connected and compliements each other. The next season (or part 2, if you insist) has been confirmed to NOT have any connection to Season 5 AND that it has a completly new set of contestants. For example, you CAN NOT have Harry Potter Part 2 without Harry Potter Part 1. You CAN, however, have Total Drama Action WITHOUT having Total Drama: Revenge of the Island because they are completely different seasons and they don't neccessarly reflect each other so you're comparing Apples to Oranges there. Damfectionist (talk) 08:06, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Edit: Just wanted to add this for food for thought. Take a look at the confirmed logo for All*Stars.

If one could just ignore the awesome yet disturbing picture of Chris acting what can only be discribed as the island's insane cult leader controlling the entire world for just a moment...

Notice the title of the logo.

"Total Drama All*Stars"

Every single series or movie that has been split into two parts, including the Harry Potter example you mentioned, almost always include "Part 1" as a subtitle on their promotion. Now granted, there isn't a law that specifically requires them to do this, but generally it's pretty convienant to point out that the season has been split into two parts as soon as possible, and that starts with the advertising. One could argue that they are just keeping a low profile on the part one / part two to keep spoilers in check, but it's apparantly been confirmed somewhere that I've still yet to find anywhere. In any event, the lack of "Part 1" on the season's official logo is confirmation to me that "Part 2" is, in fact, a totally different season.

Although it does confuse me that this Season's logo doesn't have ANY characters except for Chris, who isn't even a contestant, let alone an All*Star. Does anyone else find this odd?

Damfectionist (talk) 08:24, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

(I don't sure about this but) What if season 5 are just this first 13 episodes, and the other 13 episodes (if we know that is confirmed "life after TD5") are actually season 6, a totally different season with the new cast, own name and not a two part splited TDAS? Think about it, season 5's script is already done, so is obvious that they had a voice actor for each charactere, classic or newbie. So there are two options: or they are very carefuly with the spoitlers (which is the safest option) or this missing voice actors (the ones for the new cast) won't be in season 5 (this is also interesting by the fact that they just have at least "confirmed" the creation of a sixth season before finish the fifth. Do I explain myself?).TwisterDxG (talk) 09:11, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so my theory is that season 5 is not 2 part, it will have the original "all star" cast followed by the new cast, I think that the plot will be connected between old and new casts somehow and it will end in a finale of some sort including both casts. That means that the LIFE BEYOND SEASON 5 will actually be a whole other season altogether meaning that there will be 4 generations, the TDI-TDWT crew, the TDROTI people, the new cast being introduced mid-season TDAS, AND a whole-new bunch of guys in season 6. This idea might seem crazy or something but this is what i got putting the information together, season 6 is probably 2014 though:P But yeah, thats what I got, just an idea.Theproguy12 (talk) 10:05, February 8, 2013 (UTC) 

^Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you there. Total Drama All Stars is 26 episodes long. The first half will be all-stars of course, but the second half, or "life after Season 5" is the new characters part, BUT the all-stars might still have some sort of role in Part 2, explaining why the whole season is called All Stars, so yeah. Season 5 will have 2 parts, and both parts may have the all-stars in them. Weerwooff (talk) 19:04, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

All- Star Cast confirmed Kevin Duhaney posted on his Twitter what could possibly be the final cast. I know and HE knows it's a fan pic but for him to represent the All-Star roster why would he have chosen that pic? Plus almost all the voice actors got the same tweet as well from Duhaney (including Lindsay's VA which confirms Lindsay once and for all.) So with that fan pic and seeing those characters we know now that it's 14 contestants not 13. Scott will be returning and so will Sam. P.S. this is the same guy who gave us the name for the Season a month before it was CONFIRMED. So I'll take his word for it. {The One}

Okay, just one question... where is the pic? I don't see Duhaney's post either. Weerwooff (talk) 19:06, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

This is the post: click here. --exitrus9000 talk 19:09, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

by my tweet was that it he confirmed! this is my twitter (@ DTallstar)! I found it very strange that Scott did not compete because he is one of the greatest villains of TOTAL DRAMA! not only was he! DREW NELSON the voice actor of Dunca #RT! Look who it under #RT! He even put the Twitter of CHRISTIAN, RACHEL, BRIAN, DREW, BARBARA, STEPHANIE! then it is 14 and not 13 !!
Final Cast

this is the photo he twitto

Hey, I made that. He re-posted my pic :) Brendon82498 22:18, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess this closes the case. That means that if a chracter is not on that picture, then that means that they are not competing, and this goes to you Codykins. Weerwooff (talk) 02:29, February 9, 2013 (UTC) this pic was fan-made..I thought that Courtney pose looked familiar!

I kinda got my hopes up because it looked like Gwen is getting weirded out or disturbed by Duncan for some reason, and I thought it was hinting a possible break-up between them...way to crush my dreams, logo maker! :P Damfectionist (talk) 04:33, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Now that we know the cast shouldn't we add Scott to the characters for Total Drama All Stars {The One}

Jo and Lightning!? Those two arrogant freaks AGAIN!??! No Brick, Dawn, Beth or Cody? This is nothing but an outrage! NO CARES ABOUT LIGHTNING!!! If there no Brick, then this season going suck.

EoinGhost (talk) 01:50, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

That after all Scott confirmed yes! You can not deny! THEN ARE 14! and no matter if have 13 episodes of the one to be eliminated 2 times and still have the final 3, that's right! TDRI only was she had a final 2 I think it will not happen again!


The Hamsters Heroic: Cameron, Courtney, Lindsay, Mike, Sam, Sierra and Zoey

The Vultures Villains: Alejandro, Gwen, Duncan, Heather, Jo, Lightning and Scott   @EoinGhost - Yeah, get ready for some more "Jo, your a dude!" :D Weerwooff (talk) 12:15, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I mean, at first look I knew this was fake!

1.) all other season group shots have a background.

2.) All of the characters are artworks

3.) In the past they had charcters interacting with eachother

This is fake, but I do admire it..... Ryandavhet 15:14, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

DO NOT BE DONKEY! why would he do that makes no sense! until DREW NELSON # RT! everything that you said is that it is FAKE! We think this is fake if he is working on it? No!! If think Scott is a good villain bigger than Jo! Why would she and he does not! TDRI forget that only had 13 competitors, the season was shorter and bad (did very unrealistic), what save was new participants we begin to like them very much! Kevin Duhaney is one of the most beloved voice actors for "Campers"! if you're not remembering very well, was he that revealed that the name of the fifth season!

I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you're trying to say.Gerty is in da howse! 17:26, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Wait, but where was Scott confirmed? I didn't see anything in that link that confirmed his participation. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 03:20, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Episode 2, Season 5

According to the name of the second episode is Evil Dream Ayyyy Ohh Ayyyy I Got Problems With Condor, Problems With Condor (talk) 21:42, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Apparently... NThree (talk contributions) 22:14, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

This doesn't prove anything, Wikipedia can be editied by anyone and besides right now it says "Drea?" again Weerwooff (talk) 02:30, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

True true. We don't know if it's actually real. NThree (talk contributions) 05:38, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah my guess is that the title is "Evil Dread" like Ryan said earlier since most episode titles are parodies of various famous sayings and franchises and the title "Evil Dread" parodies "Evil Dead", the horror movie series. DementedCodyFan talk 08:43, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I like Evil Dread better then Evil Dead. But as I said above, we don't know if it's accurate. Because Wikipedia is an editable site so it could be false. NThree (talk contributions) 02:28, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Zoey, Sierra and Cameron??

In Christian Potenza's second video of tdas, we see the voices of cameron, sierra and zoey doing a session together. Do you think that this could mean a new friendship/alliance of some sort??? Did anyone else notice this?? Joeyz1113 (talk) 01:27, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

@Joez1113 They probabaly are all doing it together because they are all on the same team according to the script shots that we have seen. DementedCodyFan (talk) 02:18, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, they were working together meaning that there will be a scene where all 3 talk to each other, but as Demented said, it's probably because they are all on the same team. Weerwooff (talk) 02:34, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Heather, Gwen, and Courtney's voice actresses frequently recorded together in TDWT, and they were all BFFFLs...except not really...Damfectionist (talk) 04:18, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I can see a friendship between the three of them happening. Zoey is friends with Cameron, and Sierra and Zoey are very similar characters. Both are brave, part-psycho girls who love Total Drama and are very protective of their crushes. V.VonSchweetz (talk) 23:43, March 7, 2013 (UTC)V.VonSchweetz


I'm quite surprised that Owen isn't in this season. I thought he was Tom's favorite.Silarmy (talk) 15:19, February 9, 2013 (UTC)Silarmy

It may be that not alot of fans like Owen. I think he should be in it, He won season one, final four in season two, and made it to the final 8 in season 3, plus along with Duncan, made it to the merge in each of his seasons. Ryandavhet--Now I'm gonna leave you wedged up in hole!-- 15:29, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Owen is like the best character on the show. Something wrong must of happen in the beginning of Season 5 Weerwooff (talk) 15:33, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I think Owen will make an appearance in the season even if he isnt competing. I would have but my money on him winning this season if I didnt know better. Tdwtfan555 (talk) 15:50, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I'm really angry that Sam might actually be competing yet Owen isn't, like honestly, is Sam an All-Star? He better at least make an appareance or have some good reason for not showing up. MarsEternity (talk) 16:17, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Not seeing the appeal of another season of using the exact same toilet humor but to each their own, I suppose.

And before anyone points out that I'm Courtney's number one fan, even I will admit that I can do without the Duncan/Gwen and even the Alejandro drama. I'd like her to be independent, actually..

But I digress! Damfectionist (talk) 19:09, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe his voice actor is doing other stuff and thats why he and Trent are not there.Silarmy (talk) 19:56, February 9, 2013 (UTC)Silarmy

Voice actors can be on more than one show at once... Just look at Tom Kenny, Tara Strong, Grey Delisle, etc. Scott McCord could easily do another season but Owen and Trent aren't in the season because they aren't needed, not because he's busy. Can I go play in that guy's van? Sha Please! 20:03, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I actually find it kind of funny that people are suddenly disappointed that Owen hasn't been confirmed to appear yet. Think about it this way, if he was confirmed, you'd all be screaming for the writers' heads. The fact that I'm hearing some of you complain about minor characters such as Sam amuses me. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 21:21, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Well I guess it's what people say, "you don't appreciate something/someone until they are gone". Weerwooff (talk) 22:30, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I have to say, I 100% expected Owen to be in, but now that he isn't, I couldn't be happier! I don't understand why the creators love him so much, but I can't stand him. My theory is that he was originally set to be in the season, but something happened with his voice actor and they replaced him with Sam, who is pretty random, but at least we have one underdog this season.Gerty is in da howse! 22:53, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I don't like Owen,I think that he's a bit overrated,so I'm happy that he's not in the season,I actually like a lot more Sam. Without Owen,someone else can get a development Mike it's my name (talk) 11:35, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Total drama college by zobe-d4katiz

Zobe's Cast

It begins by zobe-d4nqk52

Poster (made by zobe)

I wouldn't be mad if Owen was confirmed, I would've expected that because he is truly an All-Star Character. Doesn't that technically ruin the whole point of the season if Sam is participating? MarsEternity (talk) 15:54, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Where is it confirmed Owen's not in season 5? I mean, I'll be happy if he's not in cause I'm just sick of seeing the guy steal the spotlight with his side kick Duncan all the time, but where was this confirmed? Wattamack4 (talk) 17:59, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Owen's voice actor never said anything about him competing, while he was not on the team list on the Episode 1 script. Weerwooff (talk) 21:45, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

I am very glad that Owen isn't coming back this season. With him gone, now hopefully we don't have to hear fans whine and complain about this season by calling it "Total Drama Screenhogs" anymore. Even though Heather, and Duncan are coming back, at least they actually create drama, unlike Owen: the king of toilet humor. DementedCodyFan talk 05:58, February 11, 2013 (UTC) 

Okay, here's the thing everyone: Sam's confirmation was photoshopped. I looked through his twitter today throufgh February & couldn't find "Great Detective Work" anywhere. Plus, on the script, light is thining in, which is making it LOOJ like 3 letters, when it's more likely 4 or 5. I'd say Owen has an okay chance at being in. Plus, some twitter confirmations may be in my favor...

I don't get why Owen is not in Season 5 when he's clearly the best character on the show. Duncan, Heather, Courtney and Gwen are all in, since they are all in the Top 5 best characters ever, but Owen is #1, so why isn't he in the show? Weerwooff (talk) 02:59, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Courtney and Heather on the same team.

I was watching Christian Poneza's videos yesterday and when he is talking to Courtney and Heather's voice actors Heather's says they will be on the same ???? but then catches herself. I'm pretty sure this means that they will be on the same team and that team will be the Villains. (sorry if this is old news.) KingToddI (talk) 13:10, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Well heathers obviously a villain..but I see alot of spoilers pointing to Courtney being a heroes (which is stupid)... But lets hope so (td fan 13:27, February 11, 2013 (UTC))

Once upon a time, the general concensus was that Courtney was originally a villian, but did something heroic and honorable that inspired Chris to switch her over to the Heros side. This was when it was still believed that there were only 13 contestants though, so unless the Heros are going to be short two people from the get-go, this theory doesn't seem likely. My guess is that Courtney and Heather's voice actors record together because their characters probably have a lot of interactions. I don't remember Heather's voice actor outright saying that they are on the same team though. Just that they were both-- and then she caught herself. Damfectionist (talk) 14:28, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Edit: Heather's voice actress says this "Yeah, [Courtney and I] get to be extra mean together. Although we are both...well..." 

I don't know. That clue seems rather vague and I really doubt that Heather is a Hero. Besides, Heather's voice actress admitted that she was evil in the same video. One thing I did notice though was that it seemed particuarly staged to me. She didn't seem shocked or surprised by he supposed accidental revelation. Besides, I would think Chris would've edited that section out if it really was an accidental spoiler. Of course, she's an actor she she's skilled at hiding her face as well as expressing it so who knows. My bet though is that it is a fake spoiler deisgned to make the viewers believe that Courtney and Heather are on the same team only to be surprised to find out that Courtney is actually a Hero. Damfectionist (talk) 14:37, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

(*ignoring Damfectionist's LONG comment*) Well I'm not surprised. Both Courtney and Heather are villains, so it makes sence for both of them to be on the same team. :P Weerwooff (talk) 15:13, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

My comments tend to be long because I actually care about the information that I provide for this wiki. If I'm going to make an edit or a comment, I actually make that time worth my while. I almost always try to  provide evidence and reason which generally requires longer posts. I aplogiz for being loquacious and informative on a talkpage.

On par with your suggestion, it wouldn't actually work if and only if Scott is confirmed. This would hugely upset the balance of the teams for the villians favor. Plus, Courtney isn't a villian--she's a textbook example of an anti-hero. She's antagonistic, yes, but she has heroic qualities. But that's mere nitpicking as Gwen and Duncan are considered anti-heros as well. Damfectionist (talk) 19:27, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that they will be on the same team but they might be in an alliance...Dramatizer- Be Dramatized by the Dramatic Drama (talk) 21:02, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

It could be that Courtney starts out on the villains, but switches with someone on the Heroic Hamsters. Like say if Gwen was a hero and wanted to be with Duncan and Courtney wanted to be away from Duncan, then they switch.UioRevolution (talk) 00:39, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

@Uio: That could be possible, but let's not jump to conclusions. And as far as Gwen, Courtney, and Duncan go. Maybe the love triangle would still go on, but idk. NThree (talk contributions) 02:35, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

The episode timing

So far as so I heard that they're having 13 episodes again like TDROTI and I was wondering. Does anyone think that the producers are gonna rush through it with an elimination in every episode or have aftermaths? I personally prefer the aftermaths, but whatevs. I can go ether way. Even though I think they shouldn't really be rushing a season. (imo) That kind of lacks time to develop characters. NThree (talk contributions) 02:41, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

With 14 contestants and 13 episodes, there will be an elimination every episode. Unless they have a couple of double eliminations, there won't be any aftermaths. Or they could have one episode where it's like an aftermath but the non-contestants vote someone out like what happened in "Haute Camp-Ture". I don't really think it's rushing the season, since almost all of the characters in the season have gotten a lot of development already and too many non-elimination episodes just feel like filler epiosdes. I think it's better to not have aftermaths and just get to the eliminations, because that's what keeps the show interesting. --Gerty is in da howse! 02:48, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

I think it will be rushed. ;( Totaldramafangeek9 (talk) 02:49, February 12, 2013 (UTC)Totaldramafangeek9

@Gerty: That's possible too that they could have a Haute Camp-Ture like episode or a rundown or something. @TDFG: Yeah, I miss those old TD days where it wasn't rushed. However, it could just be their way of rapping up the show as in losing ideas on what to do. But idk if that's true or not. NThree (talk contributions) 02:59, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Losing ideas? Wow, those producers are lazy. If they ever want ideas then they can just ask the millions of fans on what to do next. In fact, they can just go to the Camps Wikia or the Fanfiction Wikia and I bet that there are MANY ideas there on what to make the new season on. Weerwooff (talk) 03:05, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

It's strictly forbidden for the producers to even look at fanfiction, actually. That kind of defeats the purpose of fanfiction as it's centered on an uncanonical imagination. Damfectionist (talk) 04:15, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, they're called (fan)fiction and camps for a reason. To let the fans express their own ideas. Plus, lots of people put effort into their ff's so if the producers just copy them. Then that would be plagiarism and that's not good. It wouldn't really be very smart ether and it would be sorta unfair to the fans. Because some fans actually take their time and put in a lot of effort. NThree (talk contributions) 04:53, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

But can't they just ask the fans if they can use their ideas, cuz there are some really good ones on the Camps Wiki like Total Drama College, Total Drama Cruise Ship, and even Total Drama Space Weerwooff (talk) 05:33, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Why would they be "forbidden" from checking out fanfictions? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 13:58, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Many writers are asked not to check them so everything on a show can be 100% original. But some writers find them as distractions from making a good episode. I remember reading about that somewhere. MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 14:13, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

They're probably encouraged to come up with new material but I don't see why they would ever be barred from checking out fanfictions; their fanbase is dedicated to them and even though they can't read everyone's stories I'm sure they've checked out a few FFs in the past. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 05:02, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

They aren't banned from reading them, that would just be silly. But they are not allowed to use anything from them. Their job is to write something original not somebody else's MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 18:28, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

They can't just use something from a fanfic, because that wouldn't be their own idea. So they technically would be taking credit for someone else's work and/or copying. However, what Ryan stated above can be true too. ;) NThree (talk contributions) 22:05, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Carter Hayden's twitter account

Twitter carter hayden
Personally, I wasn't even aware he had a Twitter account. I don't whether it's real or not, but he mentions he's in negotiations for a television series. Could be to do with Total Drama? TotalDramaFanG (talk) 12:28, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

While it could possibly mean anything, I hope it could mean Total Drama All-Stars. But I doubt it, because Noah isn't REALLY an All-Star in the sense of screen time (though I like him) but I would like to see him instead of Sam. KingToddI (talk) 12:44, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't there an article about a Noah TV series here like yesterday? Or I was imagining it... Also, why would Carter's avatar be a tree? Total Drama Pedro (talk) 13:07, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

No, that was just a dream I had. XD Are we connected through dreams? Did you dream up something with him having alter ego clones? V.VonSchweetz (talk) 01:55, February 23, 2013 (UTC)V.VonSchweetz

That article was fake. :P MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 13:16, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't fake. FreshTV must have taken it down because me and a few others saw that page. The link broke and I have been contacted via email to delete the screengrab. It could have been a leak, I don't know. As for Carter's tweet, it's too vague. It could be anything. Lord Plumber (talk) 16:37, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Noah TV is fake, and probably not. ~ CD-TDATalk Contributions23,394 Edits 18:32, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed with CD-TDA, "The Noah Show" sounds too good to be true. Still; if it was actually made, judging by how many fans he has, it would most likely be a huge success. --DementedCodyFan talk 19:03, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Guys the Noah show image was fake because it was just an edit to the total drama show page on fresh's website :P --MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:59, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Omg! I totally knew that Noah TV was fake. I mean come on, it obviously isn't a real season. :p NThree (talk contributions) 22:13, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

This page is missing the logo so an admin should add it TDRoblox Talk Contributions 21:09, February 12, 2013 (UTC) 
TDAllStars Logo

Eww, that logo looks like it has grains and it's not high resolution either like the other 4 logos. Weerwooff (talk) 21:35, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

I like the logo, but you have to be able to cut it properly in order for it to be useable. But anyway, when TDAS starts maybe we can use that star favricon if we still have it. NThree (talk contributions) 22:20, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Season 5's Main Antagonist


This is the weird figure that appears on every version of this episode. It appears shortly after Mike takes control of his Multiple Personalities. It has an evil glare and is extremely brief. Split Second brief. Was it a glitch with the artwork, or was it intentional? Could Mike be getting a new evil personality? EVIL MIKE FTW!!!!!!!!

We all know that Heather, Alejandro, Scott, and Courtney are "bad guys". So does everyone on the show. Everyone knows their ways and their strategies, so they probably will most likely not be the MAIN antagonists. So who will be? Duncan, Lightning, and Jo are also considered this, but I think they are more competitive than they are antagonists. It would have to be someone that no one expects (and by this, I mean someone that everyone totally expects). I say this season's main antagonist will be Mike. It's been strongly hinted that he will be getting a new personality, and is still refered to as "Multiple Personality Mike". Another reason for believing this is the image here. It's rather creepy, but it is there. What do you guys think? --Samtastic450 03:59, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Cory Doran did say in Christian's vid that Mike might be getting more personalities, so Evil Mike is totally plausible. [[User:Ultimatechocofan/Ultimatechocofan]] 21:27, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still banking that the silloutte is just a glitch. Nothing more. Nothing was intended by that. However, I do agree with your premise that Mike is the new antagonist. My guess is that the writers used their glitch as their excuse to make him the villian. On hindsight, I now seriously doubt the producers intended the evil mike silloutte to be in TDRI. One would think that had an evil personality be born, it would've been much more obvious than a flash second of an enderman. Even the cameos of Ezekiel in TDWT were pretty obvious. Damfectionist (talk) 22:47, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Mike will never be the antagonist he's just like the new Trent and Trent would never do anything evil it's all just a accident anyway I think Lightning will be the antagonist since he's angry that Cameron beat him.

I can see that happeneing, as Mike is boring without his multiple personailites. I can see him having new fake characters he acts as in Season 5. I don't think it will be safe to say he will be the main antagonist. He's not in one personaility forever, so he won't be able 100% of the time. TheZerMan (CF9000) The Ultimate Return Begins

Well didn't Mike get cured from his personalities last season right before he got eliminated? I don't see how Mike can suddenly get them back somehow. :O Weerwooff (talk) 19:39, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

I also think it was a glitch, BUT I also think the preducers are creative enough to use a glitch and make it indeed a evil personallity, Also I still cannot see how Sierra is gonna be without Cody so maybe we'll see more of her real personallity and she may turn out to be EVIL, ther is no other character I can think of, Sam is not Evil, Lindsey is too Lindsey for it. Jo could be but we already know what to expect, Lightning is too ..... lightning for that.

forgot my signment Misterunknown (talk) 21:04, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Here's Courtney

I've seen a lot of prediction team lists excluding Gwen from the Heroes yet including Courtney. I know everyone has their own side to the CxDxG love triangle, but I think it's pretty obvious that, when it comes down to who has been more unkind, strategic, and ruthless during the game, it's been Courtney. Why are so many people putting season two's main antagonist on their good guy list? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 00:51, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

It's no prediction. You can clearly see Courtney here on the Heroes list as seen on this image.
Hamster Confirmation
Maybe Courtney doesn't want to be a villain (even though she is) and begs Chris to swtch her teams. Weerwooff (talk) 01:10, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe. NThree (talk contributions) 01:19, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

You said it best, Ryan. I know that the creators are not dumb enough to put one of the series's most evil villains on the Heroes team. I'm willing to go with the "switcheroo" theory that people have suggested due to the image of the X-rayed script, which implies that Chris made a team switch. And since Gwen is not on that Heroes list pictured at the right, yet she's widely considered more of a hero (especially in comparison to Courtney), I'm willing to believe that Gwen and Courtney's rivalry has something to do with the switch. Courtney is originally on the Villains and Gwen is originally on the Heroes, and then they're switched. But I just do not see Courtney being placed on the Heroes from the very start. It's just not possible. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 01:34, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I completely agree. Most definitely they would not put Courtney on the Heroes; obviously this has something to do with her meddling. Shame, it was nice to see Courtney and Gwen getting along... it brought out the best in both of them. D: --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 00:04, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why Chris would make a team switch in the first episode, which is what the script is of. A prediction I've heard floating around is that Courtney does something nice and gets switched, but that seems a little out there to me. I guess we'll just have to see how it turns out when we get official teams and stuff We found dove in a soapless place... 06:43, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed with Ryan. I love Courtney, but i have no idea why a lot saying that she is the bad one while Gwen is good one ? One of the obvious reasons is How Courtney looked like in TDA, "An antagonist who thinks she's the best and does anything to win." First of all. Anything is possible. Gwen and Courtney might switch team, one of the   predictions i've heard now. Secondly, We have no idea that who will team members. In the screenshot i looked, It seems Courtney might be in Heroes team, but how, is currently unknownI'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Courtney's a hero by default. This is the first episode and she's already organized on the heros side. The unthinkable is the most likely, it seems. Damfectionist (talk) 09:49, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

I also agree with Ryan. I have no idea why Gwen and Courtney would be considered a villain and hero respectively. I do, however have a feeling that unless Chris thought the idea up completely by himself, Duncan is somehow involved in the situation without a doubt. DementedCodyFan talk 12:39, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

To be honest Courtney wasn't liked that much by any of the characters so that made me think she may be a villian. She has been known to be bossy and sceeming alot, but then again everyone did sceeming a bit on the show. The fact of Gwen being a villian is confusing. Other then stealing Duncan from Courtney, there aren't that many reasons to call her a villian. However team switches are possible but lets not forget this little fact about Courtney: Does anyone rememeber how she got in TDA? ;) MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 21:51, February 14, 2013 (UTC) 

She wasn't that much of a villain in TDI. She started to become one in TDA. Well, she was really butthurt in TDA that she was placed in a bad team, and wasn't included in the season in the first place. Plus, she was distracted by Duncan. In TDWT, she didn't really become all villain-y until Gwen stole her Duncan. Well, Gwen and her were on the same team, igniting the rivalry even more. Now, Gwen and her aren't in the same team. She doesn't like Duncan anymore so she won't be distracted, and she was put on the Heroes side, so maybe...just MAYBE, she will revert back to her old self in TDI. Sure she's still bossy, but not over the top anymore! OXJoshOx (talk) 23:57, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Piggybacking on that TDA comment, Josh, Courtney might be originally placed on the Vultures and Gwen on the Hamsters. Courtney would get butthurt again and threaten to sue Chris's butt for the eleventieth time if she isn't immediately put on the good guy team. She would have to get a replacement so the teams stay even, and she instantly picks Gwen as more of her infinite revenge, seeing as the world could now label her as a "Villain". Simple Courtney logic! [[User:Ultimatechocofan/Ultimatechocofan]] 00:31, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

...That's not like Courtney at all. Courtney doesn't care at all about Gwen's reputation. If anything, she would do anything in her power to get Gwen voted out and she certainly would do everything she can to keep Duncan away from Gwen. Damfectionist (talk) 02:49, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Well maybe Duncan is a villain and he wants Gwen in the same team as him and wants Courtney in the other team to stay away, so that explains Gwen and Courtney swapping teams. Weerwooff (talk) 06:10, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

That would be an act of selfishness on Duncan's part. Definately not that of valor. Damfectionist (talk) 08:18, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

A little selfish but this is Total Drama. It's not like anyone actually thinks less of the villains; being a villain won't really ruin Gwen's "rep" or anything and it's actually cute that he wants her on his team, if that's the case. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 00:11, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the brilliant switchers apparantly requires an act of valor that touches sadistic Chris to switch someone. So I doubt it's merely because three people want a switch to happen. Damfectionist (talk) 15:23, February 19, 2013 (UTC)


Are there 13 or 14 characters? Many say that there are 13 while others say that there are 14, who is right? Weerwooff (talk) 01:38, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

I think there are 13. NThree (talk contributions) 01:40, February 15, 2013 (UTC)'s obviously 14. Damfectionist (talk) 01:45, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

We don't have decisive evidence yet, so we'll have to wait to find out. "Just beware of Eels" (talk) 14:39, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

Isn't there already a topic on this? UioRevolution (talk) 01:46, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

It's 13. Didn't the page on ReFresh blog confirm that? It stated that 13 would return. --Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 20:12, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

@Prometheus-722 The reFresh blog didn't confirm that, it said "The first 13 episodes will be an all-star season (participants to be revealed soon!)". It didn't say that only 13 would return. It's more logical to have 14 contestants in the season anyway.Gerty is in da howse! 21:58, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

It could be 15 or 16 All-Stars, for all we know. So lets just wait till its confirmed for reall. NoahRileyM (talk) 00:05, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

All-Stars title

Is it Total Drama All-Stars or Total Drama: All-Stars with the colon? Brendon82498 18:50, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

I typically prefer to refer to it as Total Drama All*Stars with an astricks...I like being diffrent. :) Damfectionist (talk) 19:09, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

so who else is waiting for LeShawna's debut to be confirmed amirite ~ Kgman04! Talk! Contribs! 19:17, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Said no one ever. Also, *Leshawna. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 19:21, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with both of you. I like to spell it "LeShawna," but I hope she never returns ever again. #Compromise. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 19:25, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Well according to the logo, it should be Total Drama All☆Stars Weerwooff (talk) 20:00, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

That actually would look good. :p NThree (talk contributions) 18:32, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Obviously we don't spell it with a star. It's just part of the text design. Also, highly unlikely that anyone else will be returning at this point. I'm pretty sure this is the final cast list, guys. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 00:02, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Ryan, one more contestant could be returning. 14 contestants would make sense to eliminate one per episode and have two left for episode 13, unless they're planning to have a returnee (like Dakota in TDRI). But yeah, I think 13 is probably going to be the final number, I'm just saying that it's possible. We found dove in a soapless place... 05:16, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well we did see 14 contestants on that Episode 1 script, so yeah I think it's 14. Weerwooff (talk) 10:51, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

@Ryan, Maybe, but we have no idea about the final release. :P Who knows, anything is possible. Anyways, i think it's Total Drama: All-Stars. I guess it'd make sense that the fifth season will have in the title. BatmanBaleLover (talk) 11:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well one thing for sure is that I still see people writing Total Drama Revenge of the Island without the colin, while others do write Total Drama: Revenge of the Island with the colin, go I guess the colin is not really official, it's just there if you want it to be. Weerwooff (talk) 21:59, February 19, 2013 (UTC)


Okay guys...I am sick and tired of all these FAKE images. Like seriously, I saw the poster with all the "contestants" earlier and got really excited for a few seconds. And then, upon closer inspection, i realized how sucky the art actually was, and that it was a total fake. NOT COOL. NOT COOL AT ALL! These fake images better stop HERE and NOW.  T_T Be warned...  MR.Flix (talk) 00:26, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I fell for that too and was so happy that we finally had an official cast image, but then realized it was fake, so basically it was a waste of my time. Weerwooff (talk) 00:56, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

That makes me feel a little bit happy, because Izzy wasn't in the "official" cast image, but It makes me feel sad, because a friend of mine made it. ThePlanty ~ Prince-of-nono (talk) 01:10, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I feel the same way. This phoniness has got to stop. -.- NThree (talk contributions) 02:22, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Well turns out that all these phony images that we have gotten for the past few months are from new users who don't even know how to sign in and have no idea what the rules are in here so they just go ahead and fake up things and call it as official so they can fool us. Well I know for sure that I am not getting fooled again. I was really exited when Eva was coming back or when Noah was getting his own show or when Owen and Dawn were competing, and sad that Total Drama was getting cancelled and that Cody was not competing. Now I won't believe something until they post a link and see that it's real. Weerwooff (talk) 02:24, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Keep in mind that it is possible to create a sockpuppet account just to upload the image. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 02:40, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I actually knew the cast pictures were fake. I was impressed how good they were to being real though. User:DamiedeterJR 02:57, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I personally liked the fake cast photo. I liked being able to see how the cast would look as a group in the show. I knew it was fake from the start, though, so I can see where that might have been annoying. We found dove in a soapless place... 06:49, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Well it may not matter if it's fake or not since all the contestants were there and those are the 14 confirmed contestants, so yeah, that was a good cast image. Too bad it wasn't official. Weerwooff (talk) 07:14, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

It's doesn't really matter whether it was a "good" fake image. Regardless, no fan-made/fake images are allowed anywhere on the wiki, period. ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 12:29, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed with MR.Flix. Everyone are pissed about fake pictures. The only reason i see WHY some people put these fake images is just for getting attention, so others should be like "WOW, Can't wait. <3 Good find. ;3" Now, if someone uploads another fake imagethey'll be banned, as a new rule. So, we don't waste our talkpage with unnncessary sections. BatmanBaleLover (talk) 16:04, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, people only get banned for vandalism. The admins don't really care about talk pages since it's for people to talk whatever they want. Maybe that's why people post fake images since there is no rule that says you can't. Weerwooff (talk) 16:50, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

That picture above was fake, yes. I made it. But it was there for a reason. If you read the rest of the conversation you'd know that. Brendon82498 18:44, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Ok didn't we say anyone who tries to post fake TD5 images will be banned? :/ MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 21:21, February 20, 2013 (UTC)


  • Heroic Hamsters: Mike, Sierra, Zoey, Cameron, Cody
  • Villainous Vultures: Alejandro, Heather, Courtney, Scott

Ok first off anyone can edit wikipedia. And second we don't know. MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 21:41, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

That is so fake. First of all, why aren't Gwen, Sam, Lindsay, and Jo up there? OrangeBirdMaster2

I checked Wikipedia and nowhere does it say any of those characters like that. It only says Alejandro's team. Weerwooff (talk) 22:06, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you saw a troll edit. I just looked and It claims that Staci's back as a villain and that Mr. Coconut returns. Damfectionist (talk) 22:41, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

At this point, due our impatience to know if our personal favourite contestants will participate in the season, we'd better simply stay calm as long as we can, until we'll receive more detailed and definitive news by the staff of the show itself. That's one way that can help about not to trust fake spoilers or announcements. M-Day239 (talk) 23:25, February 21, 2013 (UTC) 

Well we already know who is competing, so it doesn't matter what people believe or hope since if their character is not confirmed then he/she is probably not competing. Weerwooff (talk) 23:32, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff YOU are a Codester fan , what is happening to you? Zoke coderra (talk) 02:15, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Just because he's a Cody fan does not mean that he shouldn't apply reason and skepticism where there is an insignificant quality of evidence to a claim. Failure to do so transmogrifies his correspondences into veritable quagmires of dissidence and hostility. Damfectionist (talk) 03:19, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Whoa I have no idea what you just said, but it sounded like a compliment so thanks anyway. :P Weerwooff (talk) 03:25, February 22, 2013 (UTC)


Just a little question but since the season is 26 episodes and might not start until the Fall, do you think that Season 5 might go into 2014? Cuz everyone is saying that this is a 2013 season only. Weerwooff (talk) 00:56, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

If it starts in the fall then most definitely. There's no way they could fit 26 episodes into only Spetember-December. There's not even that any weeks in those 4 months ;) ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 01:36, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Proboly not, becuase almost all Td seasons start in the summer. :) Totaldramafangeek9 (talk) 02:38, February 24, 2013 (UTC)Totaldramafangeek9

^TDAS starting in summer is highly unlikely. I fthey're not even done recording yet, then we probaly have a good half to 3/4 of a year left before it airs. ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 02:52, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well Cartoon Network always airs Total Drama in the Summer so if they start in June they can still end by December this year. It's probably Canada who is gonna start in the Fall and go all the way into 2014. Weerwooff (talk) 03:42, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well, for the real date, we should think about Teletoon schudele, not CN one. It's currently unknown when CN will air TDAS, even though they ordered it. However, i think We might not see the season in Summer because they're in production. The good thing is, there's not any delays currently, so we might except a fall date. But if it delays, i think there's no TDAS until 2014. BatmanBaleLover (talk) 11:11, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Are you guys forgetting that td5 was split into 2 *sub*seasons? Only the first half with TDAS may be aired this year and they may save the 2nd half with the new cast for next year. They dont have to air it all at once, and i think it would be wierd if they finished tdas one week and then had new contestants the next. If theyre done with voice recording or at least close that may be a hint  that theyre aiming for this year. I think summer, but i wouldnt be surprised if we got it in fall. Especially considering if they only have 13 eps to air then they'll prob get it in this year to have 13 next year. Ya know split em up so as to have better ratings. Joeyz1113 (talk) 14:55, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

@Joeyz1113, you maybe right. It's possible TDAS will air the first half this year and the next half for next year, so we'll have a break gap btw these 2 halfs. Currently, there are no delays for releasing the season, which is a good news for now. :) BatmanBaleLover (talk) 17:00, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well in that case, I hope that they can finish up the first 13 episodes by the summer, and then they can wait all they want (even 2014) for those new characters that no one wants to see. Weerwooff (talk) 17:58, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well it starts in june 2013 in usa and ends in december 2013 and in canada it starts in septmber 2013 and ends in april so now u know -Juantheawsome

Sierra in Ep. 4?

So I'm sure all of us have seen the recent videos that Christian Potenza has posted but I would just like to focus on the second one for now. At a point through the clip the camera shows a line where Chris says something about fish eyes and underneath it says Sierra but there is something else written that some of us haven't noticed. If you look above Chris' name it says Food Fright, the name for ep. 4, and as I just explained Sierra's name is also on that script paper. So does this mean Sierra gets to episode 4.Silarmy (talk) 13:14, February 24, 2013 (UTC)Silarmy

I think so, ive thought that since the pic was released. I am VERY happy about this, a lot of peoplekept predicting that she'd get eliminated 1st, but this proves she at least makes it to getting eliminated 4th. Joeyz1113 (talk) 14:48, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sierra is my 2nd fav contestant, so I'm stoked that she manages to at least make it that far. ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 15:04, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

@ChrisMcLeanFan1 Sierras my 2nd fav too! :D What a small world! Joeyz1113 (talk) 15:08, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

I guess this means that Sierra might actually get some decent character development, unlike those recent rumors saying that she gets eliminated in the first episode due to her being really annoying that Cody is not in the season. Maybe not having Cody with Sierra this time might be a good thing to change her personality. Weerwooff (talk) 16:44, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Guys! I found this image of Sierra on refresh blog, but they deleted it :C I'm happy I took this photo!  MUSICTDNOCOLOVER234 (talk) 02:33, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sierra Vomiting?

Where did you get that from? NThree (talk contributions) 02:46, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hm? Out of curiosity, why didn't you used the print screen key instead of taking an outside photo? Was there anything else besides that image? "Just beware of Eels" (talk) 02:54, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

I saw the picture too, I was going to post it but it was already deleted. It only said " Now here is a little teaser. " or something like that. PinkyTalk 03:00, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't this also confirm that Sierra's hair length will be back to normal in Season 5? Perapin (talk) 03:38, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that picture is official alright, but you could of used the Snipping Tool app to take a better screenshot. Weerwooff (talk) 05:53, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

A bit disappointing we couldn't get a clearer image. I wonder why they took it off? What's bothering me is, how is her vomit rising upwards? And her hair looks a bit wet, I'm not sure. I guess I should be thankful that she's back to her normal hair length, but it's bothering me about the lack of news on Scott and Al :P I really can't wait for this season, I hope it's out soon InspectorDrama (talk) 18:23, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ok I have no idea how to comment on that picture xD Upside down vomiting maybe? MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:10, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

TDAS Cast Pic Its So awesome!

Maybe Sierra is throwing up so hard that it shoots up in the air. Kinda like how Zoey did in Eat, Puke and Be Wary. Weerwooff (talk) 20:28, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

That cast pic is fake. Anyone who draws art good or bad can clearly see that that picture is a fake. It's quite good, but fake. That or TD's style has changed a bit... ΔTeddyΔ Leave a message, please! Goodbye now! 21:19, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

That cast pic had already been deleted before, and was re-uploaded. It will be deleted again shortly and it better not be uploaded again. Seriously. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 21:23, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Have you guys considered that the "vomit" is some sort of liquid being poured into her mouth? because its not normal to vomit upwards and you can tell shes not upside down because of her hair. I also wanted to point out that her chin is REALLY pointed

Exactly where did this get posted on the Refresh Blog? I just checked it and seen that the last update about Total Drama was a post showcasing fan art by a DA user named Skull1045fox. DementedCodyFan talk 09:24, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe it's real. Even though it's somhow taken, but i don't think it's real. I also didn't see this picture on the Refresh blog. But i think it's just water. BatmanBaleLover (talk) 11:24, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, BUT WILL YOU PEOPLE READ THE WHOLE SECTION!! GAH! It's annoying. Can't you see that they said it was taken off. And more than one person saw it. Read before making a stupid question Kbai. -__- ΔTeddyΔ Leave a message, please! Goodbye now! 20:10, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

omg i remember seeing this on the website too, but they took it off for some reason o,o -Love Jackkks , Peace ΔΔΔ 05:06, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

I keep thinking that maybe this was taken off the website because it was uploaded by mistake? Or maybe someone leaked it or something like that... MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 19:36, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Remember its a cartoon. xD Upside vomiting is normal lol. And yeah I saw this on the blog, I didn't think anything of it, I thought it was a screenshot from TDWT. But then again in the background it looks very 'campy' and I don't think it was in tdwt. So This seems legit. NoahRileyM (talk) 03:40, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

I see no evidence of a background. Let alone a campy background. Damfectionist (talk) 03:43, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

The background is a door from one of the cabins. Weerwooff (talk) 03:58, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Use your eyes. It's clearly a campy door. *knockknockonwood* NoahRileyM (talk) 05:14, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

I see no evidence of a campy door. Damfectionist (talk) 05:15, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well no crap  but when you have actually seen the picture on the blog you can tell its a campy looking door. So huney get to stepping. NoahRileyM (talk) 22:39, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Has Too Much Damage Been Done?

With TDAS set to come out this year as well as it being 6 years in July since Total Drama first premiered on Teletoon back in 2007, I feel like now is the best time for me to ask a question I've been meaning to ask the fandom for awhile now which is has there been too much damage done to Total Drama (specifically the 1st Generation cast) because of the events of TDA and TDWT for the 1st Generation cast to continue being used and/or fixed? I'll be doing a blog in the near future that goes a little more into detail with why I'm asking this question as well my answer to it. But for now, please state whether you think too much damage has been done as well as what you think needs to happen both within the show as well as behind the scenes in order for Total Drama to go back to the glory days of the series. ThomasVeggieDramaFan (talk) 17:33, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Repair Duncan and Courtney. Assassinate Gwen. Damfectionist (talk) 18:04, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

hmm hard question... probally alot of people are gonna say ether 'repairing D&C and T&G' or 'introducing second cast' and that is not true. I would say give some character so much screen time. some fan's like to see them all. And the other fault is probally giving Heather a boyfriend, sort of... Misterunknown you must know him!! (talk) 18:56, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

The main person needing redemption of the 1st generation cast is Duncan. He has definitely become less-liked among fans ever since the DxG cheating scandal in TDWT. While he was a fan-favorite in Seasons 1 & 2, by the end of S3 his popularity took a major hit. As such, if there's one character that needs fixed, it's him. I want to see the return of the golld ole' lovable Duncan from the first two seasons (you know, the one which actually had some semblance of a heart). ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 21:49, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Too much damage? I say that Duncan's personality has been messed up recently with his problems with Courtney and Gwen. Gwen needs to get back with Trent and Duncan needs to get back with Courtney so that way the damage can be undone and Total Drama can go back to the way it was in TDI. Also, Geoff and Bridgette have pretty much been forgotten as competidors since they started with the aftermaths, so they both need to compete again like they did in TDI. Also, the new cast in Season 4 have only been around for one season, so it doesn't make sence to introduce a whole new cast AGAIN in this season. They need to show more of all the TDRI contestants. And finally, some characters like Katie, Sadie, Eva, have only competed in one season too, they need to reappear again. Weerwooff (talk) 22:16, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Definately. I believe the entire DxCxG has been screwed up when TDWT happened. Duncan is cheating on Gwen, Gwen I can't believe would ever actually have the heart to do that, and Courtney has been going insane. I honestly can't blame her, but at the same time I do. The whole reason why I loved GwenxTrent and DuncanxCourtney was because they were such couples that you never see. The loner with the popular girl? The tough guy with the prissy-girl? These were so interesting to watch develop. Duncan and Gwen is the most typical couple EVER. Also, does anyone remember Geoff, Bridgette, Trent, Justin or Beth? I extremely miss them and they haven't had any screentime since. Oh well. Here's to hoping they fix DuncanxGwenxCourtney, even though I doubt they ever will because Trent is not in this season. I'm the only one who loved Heather from the beginning She is awesome! 23:48, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

OK, I'll admit that I do believe that Gwen and Courtney (even though I currently hate the character that she is) can both be saved if they can learn to stop making the series heavily Anti-Gwen as well as Courtney being given the right development to learn to stop being obsessed with destroying Duncan and Gwen and go back to the way she was in TDI. On the other hand, it's too late for Duncan to go back to the way he was in TDI and at this point is best off being completely written out of the series and only reduced to small cameo appearances. ThomasVeggieDramaFan (talk) 15:57, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

No I dont think so, i also enjoyed the first season the most despite it being the cheesiest of them all and that generally makes things not so good, but it was season 1 and i was amused, thats the way with most amusing things you encounter for the very first time. By that I am implying if there were to be made a graphic curve to display your fascination with total drama i think it will even out over time or even drop, but definitly not increase and my point is that is a natural thing and totally to be expected. (with the exception being if it was intentionally written progressivve novel book or story of some kind, but its just a cartoon with uncertain future after every season finish dont forget)   I also think despite the title of the series including "Drama" every season, it is not a drama novel, more so a cartoon reality television spin of, making it a casual and easy to direct, they all just random teens and I think some people get relly high transformation expectations in some characeters that I think are unfair to the characters and to the writers,  the creative work and development of the series overall has been significant and overall i think freshtv is doing a tremendous job, even listening to the comunity going back to the roots. Yeah there are things that in retrospective definitly could be done for the better, but also many things that were not done that could harm even more that luckily for us they chose not to go those paths thank God. I my view after hitting and missing seemingly blindfolded about what to give us after the massive and i dare say unexpected succes tdi, ultimatly resulting in tda, they went rigth back on track in tdwt with amazing momentum and even stronger in tdri listening to us going back to the island and getting new characters is brilliant despite half the comunity being scared and really insecure about it. And i expect the upcoming season to follow this trend.  I know what some of you want, but it is too difficult and time consuming to create amazing novel-quality complex inter-personal intrigues and drama in a limited frame like total drama and still retain the general flow in time limited frame theyr give to work with, and tbh they actually do a good job with all the mini stories going on, allways some new entertaining stuff.  im shure they could do better if they were given more time and freedom, but my point is overall i think the progress is good,  its impossible to work on everything and please everyone, Overall the series is pretty successfull and unique if you look from birdwiev and not tunnelvisioning on certain bad choices or missed writing story oportunities etc      

omg tl;dr = I think total drama overall deserve alot more credit than we given it. Kitana89 (talk) 17:31, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed with TVDF. I still think that even after three seasons, most of the 1st generation cast is still in pretty good condition. As for the GxDxC love triangle, I believe that it has been completely resolved now. While there is a chance that Gwen and Trent could get back together; the days of DxC are well over. I liked GxT because it was a true couple: i.e. it was actually based on love between the two and while it winded up breacking up because of major serious reasons; they still remained friends afterwards. DxC, on the other hand, was almost the exact opposite: it was almost completely formed by greed and fighting instead of actual love for one another. Although Duncan may have actually had feelings for her, Courtney had been shown several times that she only loved him because he either had the prize money or made a deal with her to split it with her if he won; and during the times when they were together and she was not thinking about money, she was trying to make several changes to his personally and image mostly for her own personal reasons, a thing that Gwen never tried to do to Trent or Duncan. Aside from the constant make-ups and break-ups over various minor quarrels, they fought with each other almost all the itme. Whether if they were together or not, they spent more time on screen fighting than being nice to each other when they had screen time together. They overall had almost no foundation that didn't involve greed in their relationship. To make a long story short: while GxT has hope, DxC is about as dead as the dodo bird and the odds of them getting back together are slim and none. Sorry if I strayed off topic a bit, but my point is that while there are many users and fans that want to see Total Drama the way it was back in it's first season and one of those things is seeing DxC back together, they just have to admit that that one thing is not going to happen. From what I can imagine from seeing the original cast together on the yacht in the first episode of TDROTI, I think that Courtney is going to be in a new love triangle with Alejandro and Heather, so that even further lower the chances of her getting back with Duncan. All I can say about TDAS is that even though it may not feature DxC it doesn't mean that it will be a bad season. DementedCodyFan talk 20:17, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Actually DementedCodyFan, I believe that half of the characters of the 1st Generation cast have faced a lot of damage from either being Flanderized, ruined, or being unlikeable or annoying to begin with to the point where many of them can't be fixed and are better off only making small cameos from now on. The only 1st Generation characters who I believe haven't been damaged and still hava a future are Gwen, Trent, Bridgette, Geoff, Izzy, Heather, Sierra, Noah, Eva, Tyler, Harold, Beth, and Lindsay. If Courtney were to be given the right development then I would include her as well despite hating the way she currently is. ThomasVeggieDramaFan (talk) 20:51, March 7, 2013 (UTC)


After weeks of getting no reply, Potenza finally responded to me on Facebook when I asked about Dawn's future in the series. He said she's going to make an appearance in All-Stars(not competing it seems) but that appearance will apparently "change" the role of a contestant competing. He didn't go that much more detailed than that last thing he said was to "Stay Tuned!" I'm so excited Dawn's returning! [User: Giggete101]

I'd like that Dawn competes once again, but...where's the proof or source ?  Because we can't confirm this without a picture and source. :P BatmanBaleLover (talk) 06:07, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

I deleted the Facebook conversation since he didn't want any "spoilers" going out to you guys yet although I just told you guys the good news on what we discussed. You guys will see for yourselves when it airs this summer June 24. But I'm just excited that Dawn's returning(even though she isn't competing). [User:Giggete101]

I hope that's true, and I think this means that we might have some cameos in this season after all. :) Weerwooff (talk) 06:14, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, hope that's true. I mean Dawn may be the 14th contestant, instead of Scott. lol BatmanBaleLover (talk) 06:16, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well YoungBreezy2012 said that Dawn is only appearing, not competing, so she's only making a cameo meaning that Scott is still one of the 14 contestants. This also meams that we might see some of the other unconfirmed contestants too even if they won't compete. Weerwooff (talk) 06:19, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Weerwooff is right she IS appearing not competing and it seems Scott(sadly) is the 14th competitor since I remember Potenza mentioning James Wallis being in the first recording session. I don't know what he meant but for now that's all I got. [User:Giggete101]

If you mean that, OF COURSE she makes at least an appearance. xD Everyone knows that. :P I mean, every contestant made at-least 1 appearance in an episode. Like in special or finale. :P I think everyone will make appearance in Finale, i hope so. lol BatmanBaleLover (talk) 06:31, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know he made it seem like her appearance was exclusive but time will tell. You may be right you may be wrong all I know is we sadly have our 14th player. Should we add Scott on the All-Stars page since Potenza confirmed Wallis was in one of their recording sessions? [User:Giggete101]

Hey, I just noticed that you said June 24, 2013, where did you hear that airdate? Weerwooff (talk) 06:37, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

That was what he told me. It's the "scheduled" date although he mentioned it could change. [User:Giggete101]

We know Scott is our 14th now but for now I think it's better to wait for more news to make any judgements on his situation. Didn't know the guy's presence would cause so much confusion for this season :p [User:Giggete101]

Dear boys, regardless what Dawn does, why you cannot rely on the producers and Scott? He can have redemption, or even still keep being a funny badass!!!! His sleveless t shirt and pants just rule!!!(sorry if i am a little mad :p) Zoke coderra (talk) 12:00, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

I still can't see why people will believe anything without evidence. Not only that but convientally enough, recently destroyed evidence that of which was only revealed when user was pressed on it. It just screams fake news to me. (Damfectionist (talk) 18:48, March 7, 2013 (UTC))

Also cameos are unlikely as is the idea of everyone in TDI history making an appearance in the finale. Remember, Dan Petronijevic and Kristin Fairlie were completely left in the dark concerning Total Drama All Stars, so unless they found different voice actors for Geoff and Bridgette, or those characters make an appearance but don't speak, I don't really see cameos happening. Damfectionist (talk) 18:48, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Until any solid proof is shown I will neither believe or nor not believe this. MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:02, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Guys, please remember that voice actors, including Christian Potenza, are highly unlikely to know information about airdates. While I'm not saying that Gigette is wrong, there's no confirmed proof.--Bigez620 - The man, the myth, the legend 20:39, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

While I am certain that Dawn will have some form of appearance we have NO SOURCE and absolutely NO PROOF so this information is therefore most likely completely FALSE. Don't believe everything u hear. KOTA !*&% (talk) 21:36, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Call me crazy but here's a theory if Dawn's appearance is true. He says that she will play a big part in the contestants, so do you think she reads the aura of them to decide if they're a hero or villain? That would be a major change for them, and it might explain why Courtney would be listed as a hero over a villain! Or she may even come in and help with a team switch by doing this. I know this seems unlikely but given the current info I wouldn't completely rule it out just yet. LuigiTheDude (talk) 22:15, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe they'd do some fanservice and do a little Dott stuff. That'd be pretty cute, if they play off their personalities right. Ultimatechocofan 22:28, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

@LuigiTheDude thats an awesome idea!! Who knows maybe you could be right if she does cameo and it causes some sort of big game changer!!! Although I'd like to point out that if she did appear it would have to be the first episode, and if its the first episode and we know shes not competing why would she appear?? Love the idea though!! Joeyz1113 (talk) 22:44, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, has anyone thought that this might mean that other people might cameo too? I really wanna see Owen and Trent again. Weerwooff (talk) 23:17, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Why are we supposed to believe Gigette if they can't provide evidence to this? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 23:47, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

I love the idea of having Dawn read Courtney's aura and interpret her as a hero as it would prove once and for all that Courtney is NOT a villian of heart, but just a bossy perfectionist. However, that begs the question. Why would Dawn read Gwen's aura and label her a villian? I'm Courtney's number one fan, but even I will admit that Gwen has more heroic qualities than Courtney. 

Unfortuantely, I find it highly unlikely that this would happen. I still maintain that Courtney is originally a villian and Gwen is a hero, then Courtney does "something of valor" while Gwen does something attrocious, which will inspire Chris to switch the two. Damfectionist (talk) 00:08, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Please Remember

The point of this talkpage is not to discuss predictions or "What are you looking forward to...?" questions but to share new information and discuss things like the teams, etc. That does NOT mean asking "Do you like the Heroic Hamsters?" but rather to say, "Why was ____ chosen to be a villain instead of a hero?" Ask insightful questions please. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 21:42, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Isn't that what a talk page is for, though... what we would like to see in the show. I know that you don't want predictions here, and I agree that you shouldn't add any... in the MAIN articles, but not here. This is a talk page, so we should be free to say whatever we want. There is no main Wikia rule that says that we are not allowed to freely speak in a talk page. We can do it in the chat, so why not here? Also, don't we all the the right of freedom of speech here in the U.S.? Weerwooff (talk) 22:37, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I think this talkpage is getting a little too restrictive, but whatever. It is what it is. Besides, the only reason we made these rules was due to the fact that the third season's talkpage was overflowing and being archived by the day (I believe we had thirty archives on that alone, from what I remember). If you do feel the need to make predictions and whatnot, put them on your userpage or make a blog for the time being. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 23:13, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Right. As I've been noticing this as well. Ever since this talk page has started. People were making predictions a lot and it's manly newer users. I also think that people should start reading the rules more than just pressing the edit button and posting. I also have noticed topics about elimination predictions and reiterative topics. ★ɴƭԋɾҽҽ ƜɪŁÐ and ƈŗąẕγ 23:25, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly, TDA15. Freedom of speech is totally a thing here and we're about as liberal and open-minded as you can get but you need to understand that we literally have archives filled with useless topics. This happens every season and it's great if you guys want to talk about it but that's also what Chat is for. We're just trying to conserve space and make things easier on everyone. If it doesn't have to be said, don't say it - at least, not here. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 23:28, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

@Ryan: People can also use the IRC and their user talk pages as well. You are absolutely right about the archiving. Season talk pages do get archived quite a lot. ★ɴƭԋɾҽҽ ƜɪŁÐ and ƈŗąẕγ 23:36, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed with TDA15, Ryan, and N3. I mean, why just putting predictions or useless topics here ? I think no one should put another fake image, and if they do, they'll be banned. (@N3: Include the normal chat, because IRC isn't the only chatroom in this wiki. :P I guess we can use IRC, Normal chat, and the talkpages.) I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 11:05, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

@Bruce: That's why I put "also use the IRC." And yeah, I noticed the fake images too. I'm just really sick of people posting them. Good thing no one has made a topic about seeing a new preview and then linking it to the Rick Roll video. Then I would be like "Really!?" and I'm pretty sure other users wouldn't like it as well. ★ɴƭԋɾҽҽ ƜɪŁÐ and ƈŗąẕγ 17:21, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, no one likes it. I guess for guys whose Purpose is to get People's attention is just saying they saw a new promo or leaked picture and people get excited for no reason. I guess there should be a new rule for whoever puts a fake image or just writing about Predictions. And please, Take it serious, admins. From now, if anyone did, Block them for at-least 3 days or maybe a week. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 17:33, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I guess we could. ★ɴƭԋɾҽҽ ƜɪŁÐ and ƈŗąẕγ 18:02, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

That would be hillarious for someone here to rickroll everyone. I haven't been rickrolled in like 3 years. :P Weerwooff (talk) 22:41, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Actually most users would not like it. ★ɴƭԋɾҽҽ ƜɪŁÐ and ƈŗąẕγ 19:15, March 11, 2013 (UTC)


Does anyone else think that the heroes team is not so much "hero-ic"? The villains will make a great team, but the the heroes... I just think there are better heroes than Sierra, Mike, Zoey, or Cam. Possibly Bridgette, DJ, or Owen, what do you guys think ? --BarBarTalk · Contributions 13:24, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I mean, I'm assuming that the Heroes will go through a losing streak, but ultimately, one will win. The Villains will definitely win in athletic or endurance challenges, thanks to Jo, Heather, and Al, but the Heroes will probably win in mental challenges thanks to Courtney and Cameron. ~ RPs&Writes!DakotaTalks&Edits! 16:40, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly what I was thinking. The Villain's winning streak, anyway. In one of Potenza's recording sessions that he posted on his channel, one of his lines was "the Villains win again!" or something like that. Kind of implies that they've won more than one challenge in a row. Besides, the Heroes team is pretty weaksauce. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 16:46, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, agreed. Villains are pretty much stronger than Heroes. Heather, Alejandro, and Jo are might be the strongest members of the team. I bet the first contestant who might be eliminated is Mike, since i think his Multiple personality hasn't end yet. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 17:36, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I could've sworn that there was already a topic like this. mmm... ★ɴƭԋɾҽҽ ƜɪŁÐ and ƈŗąẕγ 18:03, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

On an old archive, maybe. People can't exactly go back to that archive end continue their old dicussions there, now can they? TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 19:33, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think you guys are giving the villians team a little more credit than neccessary. It's a cartoon, not real life. There's been example upon example of having the perceived underdog win challenges. Ironically, it seems that this running gag falls on Lindsay's shoulders, who's a hero might I add. Also, it's been pretty much confirmed that Jo is eliminated episode 3, unless she is transferred. Either way, it's beneficial to the Heroic Hamsters. Damfectionist (talk) 18:33, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Nice thughts, guys. But that's not what I asked, I asked if you guys think that the people on the heroes team deserves to being called "Heroes."

Agred. I guess DJ and Bridgette made better heroes, especially Tom's favorite character, Owen. I bet Owen is in the season, since he's 80% to be all-stars. I though Noah, Eva, and some others were returned, but i've already excepted Duncan to return. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 18:55, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

The only questionable person on the heros team by my judgement is Sam as I do not see him do anything that would particuarly deem him heroic or villainous. He's just there, he breaths, his name is Sam. He's completely neutral by my judgement.

Yes, I view Courtney as a hero. Why? Because she's an Anti-hero. She's a hero with less then heroic qualities. The sooner people can realize that about her the easier it will be to accept her as such. She wasn't a villian in TDA because she was evil or nasty, but because she was competetive and powerful. It's interesting to point out that Duncan and Gwen fall in the same basket and while I'm curious to see Gwen on the villian's team, I classify Duncan as not an anti-hero, but an anti-villian, which is just the opposite of Courtney. Duncan is a villian that has less than villianous qualities.

All and All, I agree with the position of everyone except for Gwen and Jo. Jo's position is similar to my stance for Courtney, except Courtney's more academically an overachiever whereas Jo is basically a Eva replacement. Not exactly evil perse, but more evil than heroic, I suppose.

And please. I will hopefully say this for the last time. Eva, Noah, and Dawn are not All-Stars. Therefore, they cannot and will not return to Total Drama All-Stars. Damfectionist (talk) 19:00, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

First of all, i didn't say they're All-stars. :P  I just said i though they were going to return before the title revealed to be "Total Drama All-Stars." And secondly, I don't think to see Jo as a Hero, if you've seen TDRI, you know she  tried to make alliance with Cameron in order to win. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 19:10, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I only watched TDRI once and I just remember Jo being overly competetive, constantly teasing Brick, Lightning and to a lesser extent, Cameron. I don't remember toom much of said alliance, but if it was just an alliance, then alliance aren't always evil. Owen himself formed an alliance in Total Drama Drama Drama Drama Island. Damfectionist (talk) 19:16, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that the Heroes team in this season aren't so good. I wonder what made the producers come up with such lame heroes when we fans can come up with better ones here. Weerwooff (talk) 22:42, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Damfectionist, thank you. Thank you a million times. I don't even understand why the newbies are in this season because they have only competed in one season. Why did they call it "All-Stars" when some of these people have only competed for one season? --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 22:51, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

At first, I thought it was because all of them had made it to the merge at least once, but Sam doesn't fit that. I dunno, maybe they were one short when they were picking contestants, and Sam is a nice guy. Ultimatechocofan 00:07, March 11, 2013 (UT

Then why choose Sam over Owen? Oh, and thanks for your compliments, TDIFan13. :) Damfectionist (talk) 00:27, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Owen was always thought to be an all star, so it is unknown. Unless they make a special where they explain this then I have no idea why. Seriously, they should make another special, they used to be so special ;.; MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:17, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

@TDIFan13 I believe the answers to your question concerning the newbies competing in TDAS is because first of all, in order to be considered an "all-star", the amount of seasons a character competed in was probably not the only thing the producers looked at. They probably also looked at a variety of statistics: i.e. the amount of episodes each character stared in, their popularity among the fans, (yes, they did factor that into the situation when they were coming up with the cast for TDA when it was being made according to an old interview I seen on the wiki)  their position as a hero or villian in the previous season, ect. Secondly, if they just included the original contestants in TDAS, than it would be not only unfair to all the popular TDROTI contestants, but would also make almost all of TDROTI feel like a filler season. DementedCodyFan talk 21:34, March 11, 2013 (UTC) 

And so, why it is explained a popular character like Cody is not and another one like for example, Sam, is? or Sierra?Zoke coderra (talk) 00:35, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Cody is not popular, but Sierra is since she's a TDWT newbie while Sam is popular too since he cool like Harold. Weerwooff (talk) 01:08, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I think Cody isn't in this season not because he's not popular with the fans, but because he is not an All Star. He didn't make the merge in TDI and was not qualified to return to TDA. In fact every single one of the veterans (with the exception of Sierra and Alejandro, of course) competed in all three season.

That's why I think it would've been a better idea to have another season devoted to the TDRI contestants...have them go to the TDA set and have Jo as the main antagoinst...or maybe Dakota...(hey! It could happen! She has the attitude for it, after all!). Anyway, my point is that it would've been better to have some more character devolopment for the TDRI cast in another season before jumping into an All Star season...then, and only then, can someone like Dawn possible be considered for Total Drama All Stars (assuming she wins this hypothetical season, of course). Damfectionist (talk) 03:48, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that the TDRI contestants are not considered all-stars yet, but no one wants to see another full season with just newbies. Everyone wants to see the originals like Heather, Duncan and Alejandro compete again, and it's better to add the TDRI newbies with the originals too, since another full season with just originals sounds boring too. Weerwooff (talk) 08:59, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

I would much rather have all originals. Based on the current prediction, we only get to see seven original cast members, only five of which are from season 1. There are far too many good original cast members missing from the prediction. Where are Bridgette, Izzy, Harold, Tyler, Cody, and Noah? They were replaced by Jo, Sam, Lightning, Mike, Zoey, and Cameron. Not a very good selection if you sak me. Ajcrewzz (talk) 01:38, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

I think the Heroes time is fine, a good mixture of old and new cast. The TDRI contestants in S5 are just the people who got far, with the exception of Sam. Perapin (talk) 02:44, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

OK, first of all, stop hating on Sam, don't bag him out. I think that the producers wanted all the ROTI contestants who made it to the merge but, Dakota is messed up and she is the only other one who made the merge. Dakota isn't exactly heroic or villianous, so i think they must of thought, why not Sam? He's a nice guy, and he at least tried as hard as he could when he wasn't on one of his gaming systems. I just can't work out why they didn't pick Brick if that was the case. Brick's heroic enough. And also if your talking about Courtney not being heroic I think that she swaps teams with Gwen.Theproguy12 (talk) 02:50, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Sam is a great character, I don't get why everyone is complaining. Weerwooff (talk) 07:20, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that not only is Sam not an all star, he is not even a hero. Damfectionist (talk) 17:19, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

As much as I like Brick,I think they chose Sam because he has much less character development than most contestants in the show.Td=awesome88 (talk) 11:42, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sam is an all-star, dude. He's funny, he's cool and he's epic. There is no reason why he shouldn't be in the fifth season again. Weerwooff (talk) 20:32, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

There isn't any reason why he should be in this season especially since their are much better candidates for an All Star Season. Tell me, what exactly did he do that was particular heroic or outstanding? Brick is a much better candidate both as an All-Star and as a Hero. Damfectionist (talk) 22:45, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sam just isn't an all star. That's like bringing Katie back for this season. Plus, Brick is a far better hero, although he's not the smartest one. Ajcrewzz (talk) 03:23, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Just like how Candice isn't really a Hero in Survivor heroes vs Villains... OXJoshOx (talk) 23:27, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

I would've much rather seen Trent than Cameron or Sam. Personally, I think Gwen should be a villain (because of S3), Trent should replace Courtney (but be on Heroes), and Brick should replace Sam. Bartieandquick+6 (talk) 04:47, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Not All of the Cast is Confirmed

Duncan, Scott, Lightning, Jo, Lindsay, and Sam are not officially confirmed. Duncan and Lightning were only hinted to be confirmed by their voice actors. The other four were deduced using a blurry script. These characters were not officially confirmed and should not be on the main page. Ajcrewzz (talk) 01:44, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

I can agree with Scott possibly being not officially confirmed, and Duncan and Lightning too for that matter. In fact, none of them are really confirmed yet. Who knows, maybe that script is just fake and used to trick us all. But, if it were true, then Lindsay and Sam can easily be seen on the script. Just because it's blurry doesn't mean it's not "readable." You can still read it clearly and it says both Lindsay and Sam's names. The whole Heroes team was clear, but the whole Villains team was blurry. OXJoshOx (talk) 03:40, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what display you are using, but if you zoom in then you can read the names fine. Weerwooff (talk) 04:48, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Lightning has been officially confirmed by his voice actor on Twitter, check the old archives for the proof. Still don't know why people think Scott is competing and Duncan is competing. His voice actor has confirmed it. But the others you mentioned haven't been confirmed. Prometheus-722Url♥BIGGEST ANNE MARIA FAN♥ 06:59, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

We got a maybe from Lindsay a while ago, I was the one who tweeted at her. And some people don't even know about the new season, I think if she knows about it, she is most likely in it. And due to seeing her name on the script like that, I'm pretty sure she's going to be in it. C: NoahRileyM (talk) 20:29, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

I said this before and I'll say it again. Guys look at the pic that Vultures side of the list just zoom in to the bottom three names . The name with the long length is Lightning's as you can make the outlines of a "G" an I do see an an "I" in the beginning of the name. RIGHT below his is a name that matches up to the word "LIGHT" and just to make sure of my analysis I compared the word length to Mike and Zoey's names as they both have FOUR letters in their names. The Villain's name is a little longer than theirs by like 1 letter so we know that the Villain has FIVE letters in their name. Who has five letters in their names and is a Villain? Scott. If you guys can't figure out the clues they gave us than that's just sad..  {The One}

Yeah, I know. I took that image. The cast is confirmed, whether you believe it or not. Weerwooff (talk) 22:32, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly its 14 not 13 but people on here believe otherwise.... the pic you uploaded should have already told people that the cast is done but they think otherwise.  {The One}

Yeah, I think it's 14 since I can count 14 in that picture. Weerwooff (talk) 02:31, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff Lol no, I took that image xD You just wrote the red text on it. But I don't own it necessarily so I don't care. :P OXJoshOx (talk) 04:28, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah not all the cast!Only Sierra,Cameron,Heather,Alejandro,Gwen,mike,Zoey and Courtney Have been Confirmed.Everyone Else is just guessed to compete.

Duncan still in the game?

Duncan´s voice actor, Drew Nelson, posted this on twitter on March 11: "Hey #TDI'ers it's #totaldrama time!!". It s for sure after episode 4. Is Duncan still competing? or just appearing in some episodes? DonchoGaga (talk)  04:43, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Well I hope he is. Duncan is a great character and he deserves to make it far in the season again. :) Weerwooff (talk) 07:19, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

I can't disagree with you more Weerwooff, because to me and many of my friends Duncan did more damage to the franchise than anyone else up to the point that he's one of the reasons why I'm questioning if there has been too much damage done to the 1st Generation cast since I'm sure him starting the love triangle was him saying "I want to sink this franchise beyond all recognition and I can't believe Chris is stupid enough to let me do it and not try to stop me!". ThomasVeggieDramaFan (talk) 19:25, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Duncan is one of the best players in the game. The only damage he's done is making Courtney crazy.But even she can be restored to her normal state. He is a hog, but he's an All-Star. He should at least be in this season. There's not muchdamage done to any characters, really. Even if Duncan Trent, Justin, Alejandro, and Courtney aren't in the best condition, the first generation cast is the best cast this show will ever have.Ajcrewzz (talk) 21:05, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

At the end of the day, Duncan may be a jerk but he's a good player. Much better than Mike or Zoey IMO, don't know why they of all people were included in this season. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 01:00, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Because unlike Duncan, Mike and Zoey are actually good characters that are likeable and please don't give me any of that no personality crap that I've run into a lot when it comes to people who hate Zoey but for whatever reason like Lightning who is the walking embodiment of no personality. ThomasVeggieDramaFan (talk) 13:02, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Zoey was far from likable. I didn't like how she complained when she was in a difficult situation and Mike woudln't help her or how she got mad at him for helping Scott even though she fell for Scott's tricks too. Duncan though supported himself and helped his team with challenges (Up the Creek, Dodgebrawl, Full Metal Drama). I still dislike him though but it's true. I think the only thing Zoey did to help the team was dress up a maggot. Can I go play in that guy's van? Sha Please! 21:00, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

"I think the only thing Zoey did to help the team was dress up a maggot" LOL nice point  DonchoGaga (talk--DonchoGaga (talk) 02:17, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

It seems there's no middle ground when it comes to Zoey, nobody is just okay with her. But I think the point of her being in this season is either shes getting character development (but not a full on realignment, coughcoughCourtney) or Mike is getting character development, which was already hinted at by Cory Doran, and Zoey needs to play her part as the Mike trigger. I seriously hope that Zoey gets a little more interesting this season. Ultimatechocofan 01:59, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

The entire reason I dislike them is because they don't have a personality, ThomasVeggie. I don't understand how they're even being taken seriously by the producers; Total Drama is supposed to make fun of teen stereotypes, not play them straight. If Zoey participated in the first season she'd be a big joke, she's literally the "nice girl" that ends up with the jock guy in all high school movies ever. Can we all take a moment to read her TDRI biography? Nothing remotely funny or two-dimensional about it. Zoey is so bland and boring and it just annoys me that I'm going to have to watch another season with her. --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 04:20, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Not only that, but take away Mike's MPD, and you've just got a teen in love and that's it <:T that's barely a personality trait imo.

^ I agree with whoever this is. idk they didn't sign their name, anyway MPD isn't a personality trait hahaha it's a disorder so he very much does not have a personality #sorry --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 04:11, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

You guys do realize that Mike has multiple PERSONALITY disorder, right? Personality. So yes, of course if take out Mike's MPD then he doesn't have a personality. That's the entire point of Mike's character. Damfectionist (talk) 08:57, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sierra's hair

How do you guys think is going to be Sierra's hair in this season? I think it will be like Heather's hair in the third season. --Courtney rolleyes Ricky;Ochoa'' "Go, Alejandro! Squish him... like a bug!" '-Courtney 23:47, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Her hair is the same length if that leaked photo is to be believed. Damfectionist (talk) 00:26, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it's good to know that Sierra's hair is back to normal. Cody just loves her long and beautiful purple hair! :D Weerwooff (talk) 01:09, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

I dont think that image is real. They are still recording, and animation starts after recording. So, it s fake!  DonchoGaga (talk)

Maybe they already started animating, and they should if they want this thing finished by June. Weerwooff (talk) 05:36, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

I have no reason to think the image is fake and the story seemed legitimate enough, plus there were two witnesses, one of which I trust not to lie about something like that. Anyway, yeah, I think the image is real and her hair will be back to normal. We found dove in a soapless place... 05:45, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

There is no way this season will be aired in June... but... If it happens, awesome! xD -DonchoGaga (talk) 16:46, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

There is a possiblility they started animating if after the recording an episode they go on to animating that episode. It would make the job faster IMO. Also Sierra might have her hair back, if she got some great extentions xD MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:48, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

DonchoGaga, Christian Potenza may have filmed those videos months ago. If they started recording in December-ish, then they should be done by now. A thirteen episode half season shouldn't take too long to make. Ajcrewzz (talk) 22:58, March 17, 2013 (UTC)


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The red circle shows the name of Scott. The sentence goes "Jo strangling(?) SCOTT and (?) out JO". Their names were capitalized due to Chris doing a recap and knowing him would be saracstic about it. This should finally confirm not only his participication this season but it confirms he'll atleast make it to episode 4. If there's any denial after this then that's pretty sad.   {The One}

You are kidding, right? I can barely read that. In fact, I can't see anything in that circle. Weerwooff (talk) 09:12, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Are you serious? Just zoom in it's clearer that way. His name is capitialized. the sentence starts "with Jo strangling(?) SCOTT" that's how his name is shown in that sentence. It's clear as day. Tilt your screen or something.  {The One}

All I see is (XYMWW), I can barely read it Weerwooff (talk) 09:18, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

You're joking right? Dude Or tilt your screen. You'll see his name. "SCOTT" Look at it more clearly...... {The One}

Wow, I saw that. His name is in capitial letters. Just tilt you screen a bit and you'll see it. Hm, I always thought if Scott was in it he'd be a first boot. Perapin (talk) 09:57, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Well, i can't see it. But i have no idea how you say he's there. :P I just see you circled on the "Edit." First of all, We can't confirm everything with just a picture and it shows a thing that would be confirmed. 70% of the pictures in the TDAS talkpage were revealed to be fake (except those confirmations by their actors or Tom McGillis - And the poster). Secondly, Nothing will be confirmed until the official annoucement by Stuff or a powerful source. There should be a Great source to confirm these rumors. Thank you. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 11:47, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Umm no.... this pic was the same pic that "confirmed" Jo genius. No one was able to make out his name at the time because they gave up due to the text being blurry. All I did was circle his name that's the original pic Potenza posted on his Facebook but if you want to be in denial then so be it. While I know the full cast,, shouldn't we "unconfirm" Sam, Lindsay and Jo since they weren't "confirmed" by their actors? The denial here is so amazing. You choose to ignore the pic so believe what you want.  {The One}

Well, i can't say everything and i have respect to your thoughs. Maybe you're right, maybe not. As i said, we've better to wait for announcement. I say this because many people believed most of the fake pictures made by a few users and These fake things broke their hearts. So, i don't want that happens to users again. Anyways, you said you know the full cast. So, how do you know the full or confirmed cast ? lol I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 12:08, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Go back to one of the old archives for TDAS. So from your point of view(not trying to disrepect) anyone WITHOUT confirmation from their voice actors shouldn't be "confirmed" Why are Lindsay, Jo and Sam confirrmed then? :p (I know they really are coming back but to you without the "confirmations" from their VA they shouldn't be on the All Star page) I don't remember either voice actor saying "yes" to any of them do YOU?   {The One}

Well, no. And please, relax, i didn't say a bad thing to you. :/ The whole point of my opinion is, We have no idea if this is actually the true cast for TDAS. Some actors might even joke and some might not. Maybe CP mentioned "Alejandro" in the video or the reference "Mental Friend" could be Scott, but we have to face with possibilities. For now, We can't confirm Scott to be one because if he's in the picture, it doesn't mean he's officially confirmed. So, the better thing is waiting. :P I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 12:26, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

'I'm perfectly calm :D I just want to understand your reasoning, Maybe we should change the status of the three I mentioned since neither were "confirmed". Like you said we don't want to give people false hope so until we get an official announcement or a video, those who haven't been given the "yes" is "unconfirmed"  {The One}

Currently, we can't change them. It's all up to admins since they know what to do. But, i don't see "Scott" in the picture as what i saw others like "Jo," or "Sam," or "Lindsay." Also, for who haven't given the "yes" means "Unknown," since we have no idea if they be confirmd or not. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 12:37, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Everyone on Dramatic Static saw his name.. like really if you tilted your screen you'd see his name like this "SCOTT" but you choose not to see it. Sam's name was on the same script so was Jo's.. how do you know it's them and not someone else?(Even though it is them) Regardless Scott's name is seen in the circle I drew out. Zoom in if you have to but don't say its not there when you didn't even try to look at it.   {The One}

I don't want to be sound mean, but I tried to LOOK at it and I liked to SEE it. So, Stop saying that i didn't want to see it. With what you said is really mean. :| Anyways, i saw Jo because the text can be Seen, unlike this picture, because i can't see "Scott," as many times i've tried to. See the picture below, i've seen "Jo." This picture is from the previous Archieve talkpage. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 12:54, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to insult you but I don't know why you'd pull out the picture that was shaded out. Just go to Potenza's Facebook page and get the pic there if you believe the one I have is "fake" I could see Sam, Scott, Courtney, Duncan and Jo's name in that script. I really don't understand how you CAN'T make out Scott's name even when I sort of highlighted it for you.. but whatever I guess. I'm trying to be nice if you look at it CAREFULLY I'm sure you'll see his name. {The One}

Yeah, I see it. I knew Scott was going to be in it. Brendon82498 17:20, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

THANK YOU. Atleast someone can see it just curious how were you able to see it since it seems "impossible" to look at it? P.S. When Heroes vs Villains was confirmed to be the theme Alejandro and Scott were confirmed right off the bat in my book.  {The One}

On my laptop I just moved the screen back until I saw it, and it definatly says SCOTT in caps right where you circled. Brendon82498 19:23, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

That's exactly what I did you made it seem so simple but good work. This whole time we overlooked the one important fact... and with that info being out before the first video was uploaded Scott was technically confirmed before Alejandro, Plus we know now that he'll make it to Episode 4( Was expecting and kinda hoping he'd be a first boot) but we have our 14 competitors now who have ALL been confirmed. Case closed. (and to BatmanBaleLover sorry if I was being rude I just wanted to provide proof of Scott's appearance just so we can end this whole specualtion of his inclusion.)  {The One}


I'm starting to think that Scott isn't a competidor, cuz remember that he's a robot, so he can barely move or even speak, so the only reason he makes in into Episode 4 is that he might just be an intern like Dakota meaning that he can be in the whole season as Chris' "metal friend". Weerwooff (talk) 22:31, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Remember Total Drama is ruled by Funny not Logic so by season 5 I have no doubt he'll be restored(Alejandro is back to normal as it seems) Chris' "metal friend" statement is being misinterperated by so many people. He could have easily meant a new machine or a new weapon of his. He uses the show's budget on himself remember? I don't know where people got that statement was connected to Alejandro and Scott. Scott's returning as a COMPETITOR and so is Alejandro.   {The One}

Well it's been over 2 years since Alejandro got burned by Lava in November 2010, so it makes sence for Alejandro to heal up by June 2013, but as for Scott, he just barely got injured in August 2012, which is still not even an year ago, so yes, Scott will still probably be a robot by Season 5. BTW, these dates are US air dates. Weerwooff (talk) 02:12, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

It's rather faint in there, but I did happen to see Scott in there. I just zoomed in 200% on GIMP and positioned my head to where it is below my monitor to see the name written in Caps Lock. Flashlight237 (talk) 06:16, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Now there's another person who saw it. I wasn't making it up and now that's the proof. I agree it's rather faint and hard to see but if everyone who couldn't see it before did what you did, then they would be able to see it. Scott really is in that script which confirms his appearance and confirms that he'll atleast make it to episode 4.  {The One}

I think it's dangerious territory to assume that each season is only a year apart, especially if your evidence is using the production dates. It's been confirmed that the events of Total Drama Action are litertally two days after Total Drama Island, for example. Damfectionist (talk) 06:28, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Oh well, i kinda start to believe this rumor. Maybe Scott could be the 14th contestant, maybe not. But from what anyone say, i guess it may be true. :p I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 08:32, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Since his name was on the script that's the real deal no rumor :p but like I said earlier I apologize for being a bit rude to you. I just wanted to put the speculation to rest and now that people have actually seen his name too it's really not a debate anymore about him competing.  His proof is just as good as Lindsay, Jo and Sam's now.  {The One}

OMG EVEN I SAW IT! I had to put my eyes below the screen to see it!!!!!1 IRaamish (talk) 10:52, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Guess what? I saw it too now! :D I just had to put my brightness to the lowest level, but you are right, Scott is in that script! Weerwooff (talk) 11:22, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Congrats! :p Now you know I wasn't making it up. It's hard to see but not impossible. All you had to do was make the proper adjustments and it shows up on the text.   {The One}

How is that possible?!?! We already got the thirteen! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!?!?!Fire Eater (talk) 19:02, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

It was NEVER confirmed that it would only be 13 players coming back people just assumed that due to the first half being 13 episodes. It's Heroes vs Villains so they would of course want an equal amount of players on each team and with Scott's proof we know have our 14 players 7 heroes 7 villains 7 veterans 7 newbies.   {The One}

Actually it's 14 people since that the exact amount of characters that you need to have an elimination in every episode without having any double eliminations or reward challenges. Weerwooff (talk) 01:35, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I don't see it. And it's not 7 originals and 7 newbies; it's 5 originals and 8 newbies (Alejandro and Sierra aren't exactly my idea of "original" contestants). --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 03:54, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if you can see it or not anymore since a good amount of people have seen it. It's 14 not 13 7 newbs 7 vets(Al and Sierra being around the same age and was on the boat with the veterans indicate this) .  {The One}

Yeah, it is 14, and I can see Scott clearly now. :) Weerwooff (talk) 16:42, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Nice to know that my opinion doesn't matter anymore. Honestly, The One, you need to stop talking so arrogantly. You repeatedly say things like "you're joking, right?" or "you're kidding, right?" in a very condescending manner when you address others on this Talk Page. And you also sarcastically referred to BatmanBaleLover as "genius" in a previous comment. You need to stop acting like you're always right and everyone else who contradicts what you say is an idiot, because that's what you're basically implying. And it's not just in this section, too. You've acted like this on previous occasions as well. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 02:49, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

I don't mean to speak for The One, but I think he's dismissing your opinion in the same manner that you dismissed another opinion. You mentioned that you dislike it when others puts on a head of absolute certainity, yet you seem absolutely convinced that it is 5 veterans vs. 8 newbies with litteratly having no justification except for "I don't see it that way" and delibertly ignoring the contradicting evidence. I'm sorry, but while you are probably not as assertive and vocal as The One is, I still see nothing but kettle calling here. Damfectionist (talk) 03:16, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't telling The One that his opinion is wrong or anything, I'm just giving my opinion. Hence, why I said: "Alejandro and Sierra aren't exactly my idea of "original" contestants." I'm stating that they're not my idea, hence, my opinion. I'm not saying: "Alejandro and Sierra AREN'T original contestants, and that's that!" I'm just giving my opinion. I wasn't dismissing anyone or insulting anyone else. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 03:22, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

"And it's not 7 originals and 7 newbies; it's 5 originals and 8 newbies" sounds like an assertion of absolute knowledge to me, bro. Damfectionist (talk) 03:24, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Figures that, in quoting me, you take my comment out of context and fail to include the part where I admit that it's my own opinion. Let me repeat it for you, one more time: "Alejandro and Sierra aren't exactly my idea of "original" contestants." --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 03:32, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see how anyone would take that "out of context". Especially when you are apparantly correcting someone who states that it's been confirmed that it's 7 vs 7, and that's it's evenly divided on both sides. You don't just admit that you have strong opinions, but you present your opinions as facts and you've done this before time and time again. You've recently mentioned that it is "impossible" that Courtney is a hero by default, for example. Damfectionist (talk) 04:52, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Wrong again. As I said several times before, I was not "correcting" someone; I was giving my opinion. Point out to me where I was calling him wrong, or saying that his opinion was wrong. And when I said it was "impossible" for Courtney to be a hero, I was, again, giving my own opinion. If you would put that in the full context of the situation, I later admitted that Courtney is undoubtedly going to be on the Heroes' team, though I considered (and still do consider) this a serious mistake on the writers' part. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 04:57, March 19, 2013 (UTC)  

"And it's not [insert opinion here]; it's [insert my opinion here]"

You're missing the point entirely. Opinion or not, you still push it all out as a fact. Damfectionist (talk) 05:28, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Damfectionist I appreciate you trying to help me out here but if Fedora Kid  thinks I'm being arrogant that's on him. I APOLOGIZED to Batman Bale Lover about my attitude towards him but of course he would leave that out. You're being a hypocrite just like Damefectionist said. I had ACTUAL proof to confirm my statement while you had NOTHING to counter my statement so in the end you tried to dismiss my evidence even though many others have seen it too. If you don't like what I have to say or show then don't comment on the things I have to say or the proof I have to show to everyone. If you don't want to accept the fact then that's on you. Not my problem so don't call me "arrogant" when you did the EXACT same thing.   {The One}

OK. I'm sorry, and I'm really trying to not sound condescending here, but what is so hard to understand? I've stated several times now that I'm simply giving my opinion. I'm not shoving it down anyone's throat, and I'm not saying that it's a fact. And once again, you're taking my comment out of context and leaving out the part where I admit it's my own opinion. And by admitting that it's my own opinion, I'm acknowledging that it's not a fact. But at this point, you're basically ignoring everything I say and instead twisting my words around to fit your own interpretation. And you know something? If that's what you think I'm saying when it's really not, then that's your opinion. Not a fact. But when out-of-context quotes and repetition of the same point is all you have left in this argument, then I honestly don't feel like continuing any further, since you're just going to say the same thing over and over again. So if you respond to this and try to keep this pointless argument going, I'm just not going to respond.

And The One: Yes, I'm well aware of the fact that you apologized to BatmanBaleLover, and that's good. I'm glad you did. However, this goes beyond BatmanBaleLover (as you also said "You're joking, right?" to Weerwooff in a sarcastic manner), and beyond this one section. The one that comes to my mind right now is the section that was deleted, "Izzy is not competeting" (and yes, it was spelled like that), where one user was basically saying that Izzy wouldn't be competing because she wasn't "interesting," and had done nothing to be considered an all-star.  And although you and the user who made that section did eventually turn out to be right about her not returning, it still doesn't give you the right to be rude and condescending to other users just because they don't agree with you. People disagree with me, too, but I don't use CAPS on them or insult them, or force my opinion on them. I simply state it and move on. And honestly, I was considering deleting this section due to the misleading title. I'm sure that many other users had the same reaction as me when they saw a section titled "Scott CONFIRMED," and yet all we get is a faint picture of a script with someone claiming they can see his name when others can't see it. But I'm going to let you off the hook for this one. But next time, if you're going to make a section like this, at least either A) Give it such a title only if you have concrete proof, like a clear picture or a video link, or something. And B) If it is something that's subjective and/or debatable, then at least mention in the section title that it's ambiguous.

Lastly, I just want you to know: I'm not saying this because of this section alone. I've been considering saying this to you for some time now, since you've acted like this before, as I said. So I'll just give you a warning: You're just as welcome to talk here as anyone else, and feel free to join in future discussions all you want. But please just be careful of what you say; try to tone down the sarcasm, the condescending talk, and be more accepting of others' opinions (like me). --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 16:51, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

If I said anything out of context to those people I apologize to them. I simply wanted to state my proof just like I brought out the proof about Scott returning ( which if you actually took time to really looking at it you'll see his name and that picture couldn't be any clearer so it's not a "claim" not trying to be rude.) That warning you gave me goes to you too. If you have an opinion don't try making it into a fact and indirectly shoving somoene else's away (I don't know if you mean to do this or not but that's not for me to decide). If you don't dismiss my evidence or what I have to say, I'd have no problem accepting your opinions or anyone else's plus if you delete this thread only because you can't "see" his name which others confirmed they can, that would be once again you trying to dismiss someone else's evidence.. But with the sarcasm I can tone it down since it seems to be a problem.. but remember it goes both ways.  {The One}

HAHAHAHAHAHA wtf is happening --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 04:24, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Just some good 'o fashion man drama on the Total Drama talk page. :P Damfectionist (talk) 03:22, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

You know it :P just kidding but yeah it went way out of control. All I wanted to do was to show proof on the 14th competitor and a lot of people have already seen it. I know people have posted fake confirmations before but this is the same script that confirmed Sam and Jo, This whole time Scott's name was on the script and we all overlooked it :P  {The One}

Um guys, let's not get too out of control here. First of all, how do we even know Scott's competing? Maybe someone just mentioned his name, or the script was read wrong, or he could have a cameo appearance? No one is confirmed unless by a reliable person, and an extremely hard to see script isn't exactly reliable. And who knows, maybe they might edit the script? You're all just speculating so don't make a thread saying confirmed, when technically, he's not confirmed AT ALL. And please stop attacking other users and getting into arguments. This may be the Total Drama wiki, but the drama's supposed to happen in the cartoon, not here. --MabelPinkiePieStyle (talk) 07:28, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

This has been resolved already I don't know why you're bringing this up again.... and about "speculating" All we did was take a good look at the text and we saw his name granted it was blurry but so was Sam and Jo's yet that script which you claim could be "edited"( when Potenza himself gave us that pic) confirmed them as well and I don't remember their voice actor's ever saying they were coming back(Even though they are)... So please don't go and say I or anyone have read the script wrong without having any proof to back it up because by doing that not only do you indirectly dismiss the evidence we found, it's like you're deconfirming Sam and Jo. I'm over this really I found his name, I know he's confirmed now and so do a lot of people who have actually took time in reading the script( which isn't impossible not trying to be rude) believe what you want  I'm done arguing over this.    {The One}

Figured this was the best place to put this here.

Everyone is absolutely confused about the exclusion of Owen. I admit I am supicious as well. However, something just occured to me. What if Owen does compete, but he for whatever reason debuts midseason? Right at the merge is typically when someone returns anyway, and it's happened every single season so far so it's not like a returning player is unexpected. This would also explain why Owen is not on the script currently.

That being said, don't get your hopes up too much. I sincerly doubt that Dawn will debut midseason (occasionally, they bring back two characers). In fact, the only characters I see that even has a chance of returning midseason is Cody and maybe Trent, and both are for drama reasons (Sierra and Gwen/Duncan, respectfully). However, I really doubt this would happen. I'm about 60% confident that Owen would compete somehow though, just not at the start.

Thoughts??? Damfectionist (talk) 17:43, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

It's funny since now it's confirmed that there are 14 contestants and not 13, so yeah, Scott is gonna compete for sure. Weerwooff (talk) 03:05, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Even cartoons have to follow at least a small amount of logic. Heather's hair for instance took a year to grow back, instead of just have her magically grow her hair back next season. Damfectionist (talk) 06:45, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

James Wallis could be seen in the first recording session( presumably) which indicates Scott could atleast speak again which I'm betting to believe he will be back to normal and so will Alejandro(although with shorter hair since it was burned off... MAYBE) Just my opinion.  {The One}

By the way, Jo isn't eliminated on Episode 3 after all. Damfectionist (talk) 07:55, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I dont see it, but i hope scott is in there!Pizzalover7272 (talk) 01:39, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

New TDAS logo image

I had no idea where to post this image but I thought I'd post it here. The new re fresh blog is up so I thought the image could be somewhat used to make a new logo for the wiki, or something. Anyway here it is c: 

Well that is all c: MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:23, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Great! Looks like we finally have an official logo! Also, can you post the link to the new Refresh blog? I can't find it. Weerwooff (talk) 21:35, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Here is the official blog post from the Fresh TV website. -Gsu eagle 31049 (talk) 21:44, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, awesome work, Mila! Good eye - we'll make a new logo immediately. ^_^ --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 22:49, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Finally some official update! Comment on the page campers! So FreshTV notices that we are EXCITED for the new season! :) DonchoGaga (talk) 23:01, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that Fresh TV reads this page. :P Weerwooff (talk) 23:07, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

I mean their page! comment there :P DonchoGaga (talk) 23:20, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! Loving the new logo. Perapin (talk) 02:41, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed that the Wiki dramatically changed too. :P Weerwooff (talk) 02:44, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Same, it's really nice! :3 Perapin (talk) 03:28, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

I love the new logo, it rocks. (: But, i wanted a unique logo, because this one is similar to last season's. Both showing camp wawanakwa. This one shows it in 2D while previous one showed it above. Anyways, the new logo looks great and i can't wait for it. I'm Batman! :3 nobody eats my cookies! 07:58, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

I am loving the new theme ^^. Now we are golden xD MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 09:57, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Ooh, the wiki does look really nice with the new color scheme and design! I swear, it's almost as aesthetically pleasing as myself, but no need toot my own horn here. MabelPinkiePieStyle (talk) 10:52, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

@Batman - Yeah, I agree that both Season 4 and Season 5's logos are similar, but that's because both seasons take place in the island, so basically both seasons are similar, so it makes sence for them to have similar logos. Weerwooff (talk) 17:00, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

I love the new wiki theme! It's so festive for the 5th season. ;) C'mon and follow the stars to destiny. 17:33, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

I'm Confused, Is This Image Real, It Looks It!  

Probably fake. Half of the people there were confirmed not to compete and I see absolute nobody from TDRI there. Damfectionist (talk) 20:06, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

It's an edited screen shot from Before We Die. Can I go play in that guy's van? Sha Please! 20:22, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

It's only TDWT people, so it's fake. Weerwooff (talk) 20:48, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Guys

Thanks for all the compliments about the new wiki theme and logo! It was quite difficult to put together and I'm glad you guys like it; it's really nice to hear all your compliments and encouraging for me to know that I've done well. To address the image on the wiki's slider, it's not supposed to be misleading and I'm actually quite surprised that people have contacted me about it. As two users pointed out, the image is fake and an edited screenshot from Before We Die. We don't have an official cast image so I lazily scraped that together at the last minute. It's really not meant to be misleading. Anyways, thanks for all the compliments; please remember that discussions about the wiki (such as this topic, how ironic) are not meant to be on the TDAS talkpage. I'm only posting this here to let you guys know so it can stay for now, but in the future, anything about the wiki can go on the homepage's talkpage. c: --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 20:57, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't post anything irrelevant to this season on this talk page. Thank you.--Bigez620 - The man, the myth, the legend 21:00, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
... I hate you so much. -_-' --TDIFan13 (My Talk and My Contributions) 21:00, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
:3--Bigez620 - The man, the myth, the legend 21:03, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

LOL, you guys are so funny :P Weerwooff (talk) 00:19, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ya'll are so silly. :3 LandryC 21:51, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Episode 100!!


100th Episode!

Hey guys! They are recording the #100 Episode!! "Zeek And Ye Shall Find". Potenza just post this image in Facebook. What do you mean? I'm so excited!

Link Luck-Lupin ♫♪We Built Gwen's Face♫♪ Life, why do you hate me so? 14:41, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

zeek...sounds like it has to do something with Ezekiel ? maybe. -Love Jackkks , Peace ΔΔΔ 15:24, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess it's official that the 9th episode will be Episode 100. :) Weerwooff (talk) 15:32, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

I think it has something to do with Zeke as well. Do you guys think that the challenge could be similar to the one in African Lying Safari? Or it kind of sounds mideval with the "ye" part in it. What do you guys think? ~ Lulucas777 If we burn, you burn with us! - Katniss Everdeen 15:38, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Have you guys noticed that unlike the other scripts this one doesnt have both teams which means logically the merge has happened already and they may be down to the Final 6.  {The One}

I'm pretty sure if this episode was about Ezekiel, it would be "Zeke and Ye Shall Find", not "Zeek and Ye Shall Find"... but who knows. I also find it unlikely if it really was about him then they'd still have him as that stupid Gollum joke, cause in TDRI they DID show him coming back to normal (especially in episode 12). Wattamack4 (talk) 16:28, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Well I won't be surprised if Ezekiel does appear again, since he always appears when you least expect him. Also, I'm sure that if they spell seek with a "Z" then that means that they tried to reference the word to zeke, but made the word look like seek. Weerwooff (talk) 16:47, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe they'll have something special planned. After all, this is the 100th episode. And if they wanted to reference Ezekiel, wouldn't they say Zeke like Wattamack4 suggested? Maybe the title is related to the challenge. Ajcrewzz (talk) 16:53, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Because it would be too obvious if they put "Zeke" in the title.   {The One}

The one-hundredth episode is actually Episode 10. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 19:46, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

I think that's because they didn't count TDI Rundown/Total Drama Island Recap as an episode, so it's actually episode 9. --exitrus9000 talk 19:58, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

How can it be Episode 10, when clearly it says Episode 9 in that script? I'm guessing that TDI Rundown and the 2 specials are not counted, so it's 26 + 26 + 26 + 13 + 9 = 100 Weerwooff (talk) 20:00, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

I know this has something to do with Ezekiel, but anybody getting a Medievel vibe from the title? I mean on the Ye part but I could be wrong :P MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:46, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

More Zeke? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?! They'll just bring back that horrendous Gollum joke again! Gah, I HATE that joke!Fire Eater (talk) 20:53, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ezekiel is gonna keep coming back no matter what. :P Weerwooff (talk) 21:37, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

I hope animation stars after the recording of episode 13... DonchoGaga (talk) 21:45, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

I want to bring The One's point back up. Since we can get some reference from RotI about when the merge might happen(identical amount of eps), it's really likely that ep 100 may be somewhere at the start of the team merge. Ultimatechocofan 00:20, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Crud, you want to know what i immdiatly thought when is saw this? that if theyre still recording that we wont see the show until fall 2013 Joeyz1113 (talk) 03:15, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Joeyz1113DonchoGaga (talk) 03:18, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

I'd rather have them take their time and make this season the best it can be than have the season come sooner, but crappier :P Of course, if it still ends up being not so good then it'll be a disappointment. But I cant wait ^___^ Tdi NYAN CAT FTW Fan o Gaga 03:37, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Fall 2013 means September 2013 and if the season is 26 episodes long, then we might not see the finale until Spring 2014, which is one year from now. Weerwooff (talk) 03:54, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

How are they still recording? And how are they only on episode nine? A full season does not take a month to animate. How are they planning on premiering this by the end of 2013? I mean, I know the CN Upfront basically confirmed that TDAS will be this year since it's a yearly upfront but something tells me either we're going to have a long break at one point or the season premiere will be pushed to early 2014. Maybe it's just me being pessimistic but I'm just surprised that they're only on episode 9. --TDIFan13 (My Wall and My Contributions) 07:17, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Why are we all assuming that they are just now recording epsiode 9? Chris could have snapped that photo days ago and didn't upload it until just now. Damfectionist (talk) 07:25, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, it clearly says "Zeek and ye shall find" you can clearly see it's a 'Z' not trying to be rude or anything just saying GwenXDuncan93 (talk) 10:13, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

From far away it actually looks like "Seek" :P Weerwooff (talk) 23:23, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

They dont have 26 eps to air, just 13. They'll prob air all stars as one season by itself and the other 13 with the new cast as a seperate season(even though they were ordered together as one). I dont know if you guys and/or gals watch it but, for the legend of korra they ordered two 26 episode seasons, but the show was split into four "books", the first(12) aired last year and the second(14) will air this year, even though they were ordered together. Thats why I believe TDAS will air this fall, and well see td5 part 2 next year. Also, id like to point out that when the cn upfront said td would be comming back this year, they only said "all stars", they never mentioned 13 new cast members. Joeyz1113 (talk) 12:59, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Joeyz1113, I have been trying to say that the two seasons were seperate, but couln't word it.So the first three seasons are all 26, and the next three seasons are 13. Brendon82498 19:06, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess we can say that Part 1 airs in Fall 2013 and Part 2 airs right after in 2014, so it would look something like this:

  • Part 1 - All-Stars: September 2013 - December 2013
  • Part 2 - New characters: January 2014 - March 2014

And it will all be Season 5, airing 26 episodes non-stop, but each part will be in a different year. Weerwooff (talk) 23:22, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

It's defiantely "Zeek". An S isn't as riggid and stiff as a Z and despite popular believe, they are actually pretty distinct looking from each other. That Z not only resemebles a perfect Z, but has little "nitches" on the tips of the Z that Z's commonly have, especially on typewriters. S's don't have any such thing.

And no. Part 2 is not Season 5 Part 2. That doesn't even make any sense. I can't believe this is even debateable.Damfectionist (talk) 00:45, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

@Damfectionist, I think Weerwolf & Joeyz1113 worded it wrong. I think Joeyz1113 & Weerwolf have it right though as long as you reword it. Cartoon Network ordered 26 episodes of a show. They did not order 1 season of a show. So the production crew can split the 26 episodes over 2 seasons of 13 episodes. I think we are potentially looking at seasons 5 and 6. However, this is just nothing more than educated guess. Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni (Can you believe in it?) (talk) 03:14, March 27, 2013 (UTC)   

The point that Sadie15 made is very legitimate. Just because CN ordered 26 episodes doesn't mean they have to be a whole, 26-episode season like the first three. And unless there's some major, obvious link connecting the first half to the second half, then it could be considered two separate seasons, or two mini-seasons combined into one production slot. I know that I'll certainly be looking at them as two separate seasons unless it's confirmed otherwise. At this point, Season 5 Part II is looking to be a TDR 2.0, while Part I is just a special, all-stars season. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 19:04, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

as some others are pointing out, by watching Potenza's youtube videos, the only way I perceive and deduce all the information given or revealed, is that season 5 is 13 episodes followed by another separate season (6) , this last with all only new characters. not season 5 part1 and part 2, but season 5 and a season 6. Offcourse its only my impresion, but i strongly think its like this Kitana89 (talk) 19:58, March 27, 2013 (UTC) 

Season 6? Well I guess we are gonna be here for a long time, ain't we? :) Weerwooff (talk) 22:12, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

We are staying here forever 8D but seriously am I the only one thinking it might be a medieval challenge? It did say YE :P MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 19:17, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

The phrase "Seek and ye shall find" comes from the Bible, Matthew 7:7. The full phrase is: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: (Verse 8 begins) For everyone that asketh receiveth; and that he seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened. The verses together mean that if you ask something of God, you will receive it. So, maybe the contestants will have to get something from someone else, but in unconventional, drama-filled ways! Ajcrewzz (talk) 19:32, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe they have to find Ezekiel and take something from him? Like an immunity ticket or an immunity idol or something? ~ Lulucas777 If we burn, you burn with us! - Katniss Everdeen 20:50, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe and this is a stretch but maybe just maybe they have to catch Ezekiel himself to gain Immunity for that episode. LandryC 22:00, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

It also remind sme of the TDA ep where they had to get finger prints and a dna sample of one of the other constestants.--Marhawkman (talk) 22:16, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
Well if that is the case than this episode sounds like it is going to be like a cross between the challenges from 'Get A Clue' and 'African Lying Safari', although I can't really see how those two types of challenges can relate to one another. DementedCodyFan talk 03:29, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

I bet that the episode is just something like the TDWT episode where they are in Africa and they have to catch Ezekiel to win the challenge, or at least something like that. :P Weerwooff (talk) 06:04, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Just putting my opinion.

I personally think that this season Part I and Part II will have links to each other, especially in the Final 2. I imagine that in the first half, the winner of that Part will go on to compete later in the game. The winner of the second part will then battle the winner of the FIRST PART to see who wins the prize. Anyone agree? Hi! I'm ZimFan! Talk to me! YIPPIE! 04:33, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I thought that they said that both parts would be completely separate from each other, and some people here are also saying that each part is a different season. Weerwooff (talk) 06:13, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

There is no Part II of Total Drama. It's a completely different and new season. I can't believe this is still confusing to some. Damfectionist (talk) 06:31, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

@ZimFan: Well, personally, I would love that, but I doubt that's going to happen.Tdizzyfan (talk) 08:08, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I think that is a really good idea, but as Tdizzyfan says, it won't happen. Plus at this point, it's pretty much cleared up that CN ordered 26 episodes for TD. It will be split into two seasons, there is no "part 2". I'm the only one who loved Heather from the beginning She is awesome! 16:56, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I think it will be a Season Five Part I and Part II, but I'll consider them totally separate seasons unless there's an obvious link connecting the two. --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 18:04, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

It does sounds like a good idea but it does sound like a weird one even for TD but hey we've seen a lot of strange things happen on the show before regaurding the competition. :) LandryC 19:55, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Well one thing for sure, if both parts are all under the same name, then we can consider both of them as one season, but if each part has a different name, then I'm sure that it's gonna be Season 5 and Season 6. Weerwooff (talk) 05:46, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Possible All-Stars special

I haven't been on here for some time that's because I've been working on my latest animation which I hopefully want to get on the web this year. During that time, I've been talking to Christian about a lot of things pertaining to animation, the secret project he was working on with Zobe and most importantly Total Drama All-Stars. We talked for a good while about it (not going to spoil anything major) but they've started recording the 13th episode PLUS apparently Tom and some of the higher ups were talking of a potential follow-up special after the second half of Season 5 is done. In Chris' words, "The 14 All-Stars VS. ????????" he couldn't divulge anymore than that but it seems this season may get a special after all. I'll keep in touch here if I get anymore news(which doesn't spoil the future of Total Drama)-Giggete          

Seems a little hard to believe. Damfectionist (talk) 05:14, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that there will be any specials anymore. The producers might of forgotten about doing them after TDWT. Weerwooff (talk) 05:43, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Aw, I liked the aftermath episodes. They're funny. :) Also it gives the writers a chance to do things with chars that have already been eliminated. --Marhawkman (talk) 06:56, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

No proof = Fake DonchoGaga (talk) 16:05, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Pics or it didn't happened. "Just beware of Eels" (talk) 21:06, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well I hope it's real, it sound cool to bring back a special. Weerwooff (talk) 22:51, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

This was posted on 1st April, guys... so, it's obviously a joke!! M-Day239 (talk) 23:24, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Give the person a break god! it cud b real! sheesh -.- ~~meggg

Yeah, turns out that Giggete is not a real user, but just a sockpuppet of YoungBreezy2012, you can see so here: Weerwooff (talk) 00:37, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

People should stop doing this... it s stupid really :S DonchoGaga (talk) 02:47, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

TD FB Uploaded This New Banner

Okay obviously this picture isn't real, but the background used is completely new to me. Any thoughts? Has this been used before, is it just a fan bg, or is it for S5? Just curious TDAN 00:08, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

The background is from this picture --exitrus9000 talk 00:04, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, it's so realistic I wasn't sure. TDAN 00:08, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
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Yeah, the background is fan made, so is the logo. Weerwooff (talk) 00:34, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Background is actually from Episode 13 of TDA DonchoGaga (talk) 02:46, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't remember seeing that background in that episode. --exitrus9000 talk 01:33, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

How is this from TDA if the picture is from the island? Again, probably fan made. Weerwooff (talk) 03:03, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Remember when Heather, Harold and Duncan were driving the car in episode 13? Yeah... ;) DonchoGaga (talk) 18:42, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Brian Froud Update

It's been confirmed 14 competitors not 13 like people are being led to believe so if anyone can upload the pic that would be great since my computer's acting up   {The One}

Thanks for telling us! So who do you guys think this mystery person is? *coughs* Everyone thinks it's Scott, don't they...*coughs*Tdizzyfan (talk) 01:20, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Lol because it is Scott :P his name is on the Episode 4 script it's blurry but if people did the adjustments they could see his name as many have already.  {The One}

I just think it's Scott cause no other rumors have gone around.Tdizzyfan (talk) 01:41, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. Dawn( sadly) and Owen have been ruled out. Duhaney( Cameron's VA) hinted at Scott two months ago when he retweeted the pic of the 14 players to the VA's of those competing. Then we get the first recording session video that shows Potenza and for a few seconds in the beginning there's a guy who looks VERY similar to James Wallis reading a script( Hmm, coincedence?) AND now many have been able to make out his name in the Episode 4 script. It's like they're literally throwing it in our faces that Scott's the 14th player. {The One}

Yes, #13 is Sam and #14 is Scott. The question is if Scott would be able to compete since he's a robot. Weerwooff (talk) 03:02, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well since we saw James Wallis(presumably)  we could assume that Scott will atleast be able to talk again plus it's a cartoon show that's ruled by funny not logic so I have no doubt they will fix the guy up before All Stars begins like they will do for Alejandro.(Although they both may still have scars and bruises)   {The One}

About Scott being in the suit, I think that's the point. I think he'll be first eliminated. Tdizzyfan (talk) 11:26, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Since he was on the Episode 4 script it's obvious that he won't be the first boot.  {The One}

this twitter is the same as theDuhaney # RT pic with 14 contestants! this twitter is the same as theDuhaney # RT pic with 14 contestants!

following him in 3 ... 2 ... 1

@Tdiizzyfan - Yeah, it's been confirmed that Scott makes it to at least Episode 4, so no, he won't be eliminated first. I think that Scott is gonna do something unexpected to make it that far, however. Weerwooff (talk) 21:18, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Weerwooff I'm suprised he makes it there too since I thought he'd be a first boot due to him going back on his stupid "strategy" from last season but if he's still here then he must have given up that strategy for something else or playing the game differently.  {The One}

Look, some people see Scott's name, other's don't, and I fall into the latter.Tdizzyfan (talk) 21:38, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

If you just made the adjustments you would seriously...  or better yet try lowering the brightness on your computer.A lot of people have done this already and have found his name so now it's confirmed he's returning that's all there is to it.  {The One}

I beleive he's in and all (would that many people lie? I don't think so), just don't see him.Tdizzyfan (talk) 22:23, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Who do you think is gonna be a antagonist?

If mike is gonna have a new personallity and is gonna be a antagonist, then it is kinda ironic. To have the antagonist on the heroes team One day our roads will cross eachother again (talk) 15:24, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think Lightning will be the antagonist. That is, if he has the brains to be --I would like, if I may, to take you on a strange journey. (talk) 16:39, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea... maybe Mike... but I really want Heather to reprise her role as the antagonist :P DonchoGaga (talk) 19:16, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Smart money is on Alejandro being the antagonist considering what happened to him at the end of Hawaiin Punch. Btw, I'm not betting that he's the antagonist this season this is just my opinion. c: LandryC 20:33, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well we don't know what his current mindset would be after his little accident so it's hard to say and I doubt he would reprise his role as main antagonist( As good as he was with the role) as many of his castmates(Heather and Duncan mainly) know his game although he may still continue scheming etc although at a smaller scale just my opinion.   {The One}

You know who I think is gonna be the bad guy? How about everyone in Team Villains? :P Weerwooff (talk) 21:16, April 3, 2013 (UTC) 

I have many theories. This is actually a nagging question mark that's been buzzing around me concerning Total Drama All-Stars. I'll list them all from least likely to most likely. These are theories that I believe have a significant chance of happening. Now surely, you all realize that possibility is a concept that is infinity, so I cannot and will not lay out every single possibility. This is entirely based on proabilities. Once again, least likely to most likely:

1. A previous antagonist from a previous season. This is mostly in favor for Alejandro. If one takes a look at his title, one would realize that he is the "Arch Nemesis" (even though that's not really a high school sterotype but whatever).  Now we also understand that labeles do change to better suit the character in the environment in which they were in at the time. However, they are almost always directly related to one-another, often further protraying their previous labels. No label is drastically different from their previous, in fact one might call the different label an evolution from the previous label. Courtney, for example, is infamous for having 3 different lables: From The Type A, to The Overachiever, and finally to The Perfectionist. They all compliment each other.

I think you know where I'm going with this.

If Alejandro keeps his label, then he remain an arch nemeises, in which case, he would have to outlast pretty much everyone again. If alejandro abandons his label in lieu of a more accurate description of him, it wouldn't stray to far from his previous label, and thus he would retain much of the same characteristics. In both cases, Alejandro makes it far and thus he is the most likely to be deem the season's baddie as he would outlast all he villians.

This is of course assuming that Total Drama keeps up this patern.

2. A villian (or perceived villian) that is on the villian's team that has not already been an antagoinist. This only qualifies for Duncan, Gwen, Jo and Lightning. I highly doubt that Jo makes it past episode 3 due to the leaked script information and I'm almost certain that Lightning being intelligent enough to even be an antagonist is a joke. This only leaves Duncan and Gwen. This is also improbable in that Duncan and Gwen are most likely going to focus on their relationship with one-another (whether one leaves the other, they both are happily together, they both find flaws and leave together, Courtney successfully drives another wedge between them, they both ignore Courtney, whatever). However, some are insisting that Gwen (and Zoey) are one of the first people to be eliminated. I have NO idea what source they have for this but I've seen this from a number of people from here and places outside from here. If this is true, this leaves Duncan, who frankly I think is the only candidate to be the main antagonist if this scenario is the correct scenario. The dudes rude, mean, arrogant, obnoxious, and apparantly is not above ending relatinoships fairly and civilly. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the writers devolope Duncan's mean side in a similar manner that they did to Courtney in TDA. That would explain why Courtney and Duncan have been revealed to make it very VERY far into the game (as the only rational satisfying conqueror for Duncan is Courtney in the same manner that Heather was a satisfying winner over Alejandro, although much more apparant and symbolic). Also, keep in mind that Courtney is a hero. On the implausible side, I highly doubt an All-Star season is going to turn into ANOTHER character-devolopment fest for Courtney and Duncan (which, frankly was all TDA was).

3. The entire villian's team cooperatively work as the main antagonist. The irony here is that there's too many candidates for a main villian that it's much easier and more likely that all the antagonists (including Courtney, I suppose) are the main antagonist. It's, after all, All-Stars. If they do this, however, I'd really be disapointed.

4. Someone from the Heros team who wasn't a previous antagonist, I.E. Courtney. This is the most obvious approach that the writers would go and I think I've watched enough Total Drama to pick up on their use of irony, foreshadowing, and symbolism rather well. It was to the point that I was able to pin-point exactly who was going to get voted off in TDWT AND in TDRI (not to toot my own horn, I'm just saying that they are getting pretty predictable...which isn't good!). This is what my gut is telling me, and my gut is telling me that it's defiantely either Mike or Zoey. I orginally thought it was Zoey because of Rambo Zoey being somewhat antagonist AND that Zoey and Lightning were arguably considered the antonginst the episode after Scott's elimination. I imagined that Mike get his MPD back which frustrates Zoey to the point that she feels she "lost" Mike again, and thus reawakening Rambo (and thus, Zoey has MPD too????). However, as I mentioned about Gwen earlier, people are insisting that Zoey is one of the first people to die in a fire go home. Unconfirmed and unreliable evidence? Sure, but still something to factor in. This only leaves Mike and his supposed new-found new personality. Although I'm not quite sure how Mike's new personality is going to gain control of him for the majority of the season when it shows that his MPD is only active know, a few seconds or so.

Just my intake. Take with it as you will. Damfectionist (talk) 00:34, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well I don't see people in Team Villains being a villain to other villains, so the people in Team Villains will probably only be villains to the people in Team Heroes. Weerwooff (talk) 00:48, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

How many villains could a villain be a villain to, if a villain could be a villain to villains? --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 01:23, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Seven, aparantly. Damfectionist (talk) 03:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Mr. Coconut, obviously. He shall return and get his revenge. CoGreen2.0 (talk) 16:35, April 4, 2013 (UTC)CoGreen2.0

Mr. Coconut totally! I completely agree, he shall get his revenge on Chris McLean >:D MilaYin (1,799)(talk) 20:38, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Cory Doran update. Possible Duncan and Scott interaction in All Stars?

Cory Doran seems to confirm that Duncan and Scott will meet/ Or in other words have some sort of interaction.  Could be friendship or conflict.     {The One}

Well of course they are going to "meet". They would have to! They're on the same team. Damfectionist (talk) 06:06, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Lol I know that... It was to give people actual CONFIRMATION that Scott is returning competeting our All-Star cast of 14(which was confirmed by Brian Froud)  plus I am kind of interested to see how these two will interact..  {The One}

Well it's cool since they both look very similar, the non-robot Scott of course. :P Weerwooff (talk) 09:51, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well I suppose this can serve as an official confirmation that Scott will be in TD:AS. We should add him to the "Competitors" section of the TD:AS page. MrMatt2001 (talk) 12:30, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

I can see Duncan and Scott maybe forming an interesting alliance. It might be a kind of Alejandro-Duncan esque relationship, only Duncan would be the one would to stab Scott in the back, instead of the other way around. ChrisMcLeanFan1 (talk) 12:59, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

First off, Scott should be added to the TD:AS page and the number should be changed from 13 to 14. Secondly, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my fave vet. contestant (Duncan) and my fave newbie (Scott) interacting possiblt an allianc or conflict would be epic! :DDDDDDD. Finally, now that my fanboying is over, I hope they do have an alliance and eliminate Alejandro first than stab each other in the back later on. LandryC 20:40, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Guys, Duncan and Scott suck. Why do we keep worshipping people like this? There's nothing cool about someone who's defining characteristic is making other people miserable constantly and almost never getting comeuppance for it. I fail to grasp why Scott or Duncan are still popular, can anyone explain that to me. I for one can't stand all the raving over two characters who are flat out evil. They're nowhere near as cool as so many insist. Secondly, no this does NOT confirm Scott as a contestant. Until explicit confirmation is given about Scott, you shouldn't mess with the confirmed cast listing. This isn't enough to go by, wait for concrete evidence that he is a contestant, will you?Fire Eater (talk) 04:23, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

It's the bad boy appeal, Fire Eater. That's it.

No serously, that's it. Damfectionist (talk) 05:31, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Oh my god Fire Eater Cory Doran himself just confirmed both of them is that not enough to say that both are in this season? And so what if people like characters like Duncan and Scott? If they like those two, that's their business.

@Fire Eater - Scott is gonna be in Season 5 100% for sure. Kevin Duhaney said that he's in and Cory Doran just confirmed him. The whole cast is confirmed now, there will be 14 contestants. Weerwooff (talk) 10:41, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

This entire season looks like it's going to be an EPIC FAIL. Could they have possibly picked a worse cast list if they tried? Ugh. FloridaMan (talk) 15:34, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

I hate the "just because he's confirmed doens't mean he's competeting" metatlity. It concludes absolutely nothing. You can say the exact same thing for everyone else on that list. Damfectionist (talk) 18:19, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

You can disagree with somebody all you want, Damfectionist, but don't be saying that you hate their opinions. That's going a bit too far, don't you think? --"Fresh air! A real lake! Birds!" Camerontrailer-1 21:57, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Damfectionist. The "just because he's confirmed doesn't mean he's competing" mentality is probably the most senseless thing I've ever heard. When that could be applied to everyone else.

A Total Drama fan posted this and quite frankly I couldn't agree with her more. We're not the only ones who see it but so do the fans not affliliated with this wikia. We've had enough proof that he's in but people(probably because they hate him or the "Trauma Chair" thing) choose to deny it. Well it's done. Scott's confirmed and it's 14 players.

Well to think about it, I don't think that Scott is competing, cuz remember that he's a robot and he can't move. Weerwooff (talk) 16:22, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

It's a cartoon... cmon they can easily fix him right up. They did so with Alejandro(?) who can say they can't do it to Scott( I know Alejandro's had more time to heal than Scott but TIME means nothing in Total Drama either) {The One}

Well Chris says "meet my metal friend", so someone still has to be a robot and obviously it's not Alejandro since it's confirmed that he's fixed up, so it makes sence for Scott to still be in the robot suit since he got injured more recently. Weerwooff (talk) 16:32, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Why are we assuming that line has anything to do with Alejandro or Scott just because they were robots? Plus he said "say hello to my metal friend" not "meet my metal friend" so it could easily mean some new weapon or invention of Chris' {The One}

Guys, would YOU ever want to hang out with these bad boys? They have no heart for anybody else around them and they are directly at fault for a lot of things we hated in the series, or at least many of us hated. A lot of us hated how Courtney was treated, a lot of us thought Duncan made Gwen act extremely OOC, a lot of us were angry when Dawn got booted by Scott, and their antics have been relentless. Everybody else's favorite characters have been abused or cast in a negative light all because of the excessive focus on these guys. Now ask yourselves, do you want these people as your close companions? Would you trust people of this nature if you were in their presence? Why would you keep endorsing characters we know are just going to make things ugly for the other characters and do everything in their power to make them look bad? More than anything, bad boys like these guys are nobody to get excited over. They are a truly heartless type, a lot of them. They've been bad for this series.

So now, I'm not going to "deal with" the bad boy appeal, I'm going to get to the bottom of why people aren't angrier about how these characters keep making the series difficult for the rest of us to watch and why we keep letting the same jerks return when clearly they are not trustworthy and really, WHY would we like them when you take into account all that they've done? No, I want to get to the bottom of why people literally seem to worship bad boys.Fire Eater (talk) 16:41, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Quite frankly I don't care about Duncan or Scott. We're talking about competitors when did this turn into a hate session? o.O   (P.S. That's why they're villains and you going off on them proves they're doing their job right){The One}

Bad boys or villains give drama to the show. Without villains then the show would be very boring and you wouldn't care about anyone or worry about them. Also we need bad boys since we need a Team Villains. Weerwooff (talk) 16:48, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Look, let's clear up one confusion here so we're straight, I am NOT against villains or antagonists in a series. What I AM against is constant worship for characters who while officially in a villainous role (Scott, Alejandro, Lightning, Justin) or an unofficial villainous role (Duncan) are constantly, CONSTANTLY getting virtually all of the attention in every single season and are the constant focus of all the drama when you have approximately FORTY other contestants who are beloved by the fans and who could be getting lots of legitimate drama as well but instead are the constant butt monkeys to this handful of unsavory characters who nobody in real-life should be foolish enough to trust given what they have done to make the other characters miserable while showing virtually no remorse for it and never receiving payback for it. That's why Duncan sucks so hard because they keep using him in every season, he virtually never gets punished for his actions like the others all eventually did, he constantly makes things miserable for all the other characters, even derailing all of their character development and ruining our enjoyment of them like he did with Courtney and especially with Gwen, and become the focus of every season no matter what happens. He's ONE out of FORTY, why do we keep using the same guy for drama every single season that he's on????? He's not likable, he's really not good-looking, he's constantly getting characters we really like booted or making them behave irrationally (Again, Gwen and Courtney), and just to settle the score here, he's NOT the only character who can evoke the drama, we got the other male jerks of the series who can do just that and all of the other roughly forty characters who can deliver just as much drama if they weren't focusing so much on Duncan, and yet we do keep focusing on Duncan! Why worship a character who's never received the payback he deserves and is always hogging the screen every time? This is NOT Total Drama Duncan, this is Total Drama, it has an ENSEMBLE CAST, and so character development and focus should be equal amongst them all as it was in TDI, not always coming back to this ONE guy every single time. And I won't even start on the worship for Scott and the "Dott" craze where he's been paired up with Dawn, I think it's self-explanatory why I don't endorse that, so I won't read into it. But seriously, honest to God, why worship a character like Duncan when he's done all he's done? We haven't seen the other characters deliver the same amount of drama because simply for the reason that they refuse to use the other characters unless they're tied to whatever racket Duncan or those like him are creating. When I came to Total Drama, I loved the series for its ability to develop the characters EQUALLY. I did not come here so it could glorify this one character or those like him who aren't even trustworthy or likable.Fire Eater (talk) 22:03, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Quite a nice essay that you wrote there. :P Weerwooff (talk) 22:41, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, this is just something I really, really needed to get out there and off my chest, this is something that for me is the biggest problem with the series so I just needed to say something about it upfront.Fire Eater (talk) 23:02, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, why are people calling Scott and Al robots? Al was a cyborg, part machine, part human. Scott himself was not and is not a robot. He was put into a mechanical body. I would like, if I may, to take you on a strange journey. (talk) 01:34, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

People often say that Scott and Al are robots because people often describe and refer to objects based on what they currently comprehend. That's just human nature. When you describe to a blind person what an eye is, you can say that the camera is like a camera, but of course no one will take that litertally. Damfectionist (talk) 02:45, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Fire Eater pretty much hit the nail on the head for me. To me, the appeal of the Total Drama series has always been it's large, diverse cast. And it's beyond frustrating that they keep focusing on the same five characters all the flippin' time when they have so many other characters to work with. I've always believed Eva had the potential to a great, funny character had she actually gotten screen time and development. Yet we'll never really know since the writers are too busy worshipping Duncan all the time. I really can't believe he's the only returning male character from the original cast. Seriously? Their obsession with him has really taken on a whole new level of ridiculousness.

Duncan was okay in TDI but he's become more and more unlikeable and annoying with every passing season, which is why I'm not remotely happy to see even more of him. And I never liked Scott from the beginning. I really have no idea why so many people are happy that lame villain is returning. FloridaMan (talk) 10:00, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I think a DuncanXScott conflict/rivalry would probably be the funniest thing anyone will ever see. Where both try to off to the other who's the real bad boy of the group. At first both would be pretty tied, until Scott makes Duncan look like a "softy", until finally in the end, Duncan show Scott there's only room for one of them and he comes out on top of Scott... plus he would beat the freakin' crap out of him!Lakec (talk) 20:40, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

I also liked Eva. I've found that my favorite chars are those that I can empathize with in one way or another. Eva's love of weightlifting and tendency to get angry and try to smash people are things that, while I don't take it to that extreme, are familiar to me. :) Also I love seeing competitors win because they used their own talents. The result of Eva's battle against Sasquatchanakwa was AWESOME!--Marhawkman (talk) 21:49, April 9, 2013 (UTC)


I see how there are some underused characters, but what did you expect? This is Total Drama ALL-STARS. Of course they would bring back screen hogs like Heather, Duncan, Gwen, Lindsay and Courtney! The same goes for our newest jerks Alejandro and Scott! Eva is simply not an All-Star. Ajcrewzz (talk) 15:19, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

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