I had a long reply set up and it decided to not post it :(
Let's try this again...
TDWT is 4th partially due to circumstances - I love all four of the top seasons and unfortunately one of them had to fall into 4th. Maybe I'm slightly influenced by the fact that TDI is a bit of a nostalgia bomb at this point, that I think TDA deserves more credit, and that my favorite season, TDRR, also is a worldwide competition. There's not much separating the four of them in all honesty as I believe they all have their aspects that they do the best and worst of the four.
If I had to my biggest gripe about TDWT it would be the elimination order. Not in the sense that it has bad characters but in the sense that their interactions can get a bit stale. Once they get to Australia you have AleHeather, Coderra, the love triangle, and Owen, which almost seems unnatural. They fortunately still do interact with other contestants, albeit seemingly less as time goes on. The final four being what it was compounded the issue a bit, and the finale meant it didn't end on a strong note. The episodes as a whole down the stretch definitely weren't bad, they just... weren't as good.
As for the individual episodes... that's a lot to go through. I've actually been thinking about maybe at some point going through the series and posting short reviews on my wall, but I've been lazy and would want to make them at least a bit detailed. Now it might be hard to fit it in, as I'm going on vacation in about a week, will be on that for a week, and then a week after I get back I start college again. Posting reviews should be doable during college though so maybe in a few weeks I'll start it up.
Oh you meant every season rather than every episode. That's doable.
TDRR was probably the most fun to watch due to its pacing, the groups work well overall, and it remains interesting with a boatload of solid characters. It gets a slight boost because I might enjoy that format more than the show's standard format because it can arguably get more intense and avoid obvious eliminations.
TDI has a unique feel compared to the other seasons in that it feels as much like an experience for everyone involved as a competition. While it can be a bit inconsistent, there are no agendas to push and every episode offers different aspects that make it enjoyable (probably since it was supposed to be a standalone). No other season comes close to the variety it offers, though there are more humorous ones.
TDA gets off to a slow start due to the overdose of Trent+Gwen and at times I wish there were more characters but it's otherwise a great season with some very enjoyable challenges, humor, and interactions. The middle portion of the season in particular is about as good as the series gets.
I've already said what the biggest thing holding TDWT back was but before that, and even during that, it's a very suspenseful season that also features enjoyable challenges and characters, with it once again being pretty hilarious at times. It's a net positive for sure.
TDPI is a perfectly fine, somewhat fun, and short season with an somewhat weird cast that is more or less lodged into fifth as long as there are 7 seasons. Its highs aren't that high and its lows aren't very low.
TDRoTI is mediocre largely due to its setting and tone, which really remove all sense of realism and can make it a bit mean-spirited. The cast isn't great, but they might do the best with what is given to them, and even the best cast wouldn't have made this one of the better seasons.
TDAS doesn't really need an explanation, but I think there are certain things it improved upon from TDRoTI, so it's not last by much. However, there's too much focus on middling characters or interactions and too many bad episodes for it to avoid being last.
Oh sorry I was afk before I could say bye to you when you left.
Anyway, I just noticed when copying your pictures in your ranks after getting permission that unless I'm wrong, you lowered Alejandro a LOT. If I remember he used to be like, Top 5 wasn't he? But now he just barely is in the Top 20. What caused you to change to that?
He was good in TDWT, he wasn't not good enough for that + TDAS (where his success may have been aided a bit by who else was there) to result in a top 10 spot. I just overrated him slightly in the past.
btw you didn't need to ask permission to use those pictures :P
I need to re-watch more of TDRoTI (haven't watched much pre-merge in a long while), but I agree with most of what you said (nice to see another fan of TDRoTI Sam). 7/10 seems like an appropriate rating for it.
Biggest thing that stuck out to me was when you mentioned the theme, as I also think the season was held back by it. I think that contributed to the fact it was a bit mean-spirited, but I think a bigger problem it caused was that some of the episodes were a bit (too) chaotic relative to some of the other seasons.
I might have to make a blog like that in the future too. I've noticed while re-watching random episodes that some of my opinions have changed too, and I might need to do something like that just to organize my thoughts.
Why did you lower the best character in all space and time Josee down by a considerable amount? She used to be almost 10 spots higher for you than she is now. While Jacques went higher and also a lot higher than her too. Pretty curious about this if you can answer, and hopefully I can clear up any of her zero flaws you might have :)
The ice dancers in general bothered me a bit the last few episodes when I rewatched RR. I'm cool with them being antagonistic and competitive, but they don't need to exhibit that with evil laughter or really blatant cheating (like the vegetable oil). Josee betraying MacArthur after she saved her life also irked me a bit, if only because I expect all characters to have at least a shred of humanity, and it didn't accomplish anything.
I honestly would like both Josee and Jacques more if the penalty eliminated them in India. It'd be a more fitting end than they got, and would help avoid some of those issues. Because, honestly, other than what I just listed, I don't really have any issues with Josee.
Looking back though I should at least have her as 30th.
I have Jacques higher mostly because he's hilarious (I find Josee pretty funny, but not hilarious). I liked him more to begin with, and he was even funnier than I remembered, largely because so much goes wrong for him. His accent is also the greatest thing ever.
I mean the evil laughter thing and the blatant cheating IS out there but that's kinda the point. They don't become real villains until twelve episodes into the season, and unlike virtually all the other main villains in the show they didn't really have that dirty style in their head. So when, from their point of view, they're record of placing really well at things has been completely shattered by RR but are saved by a curse according to them and saved by a non-elimination, it inevitably would leave to a confidence boost. As such, that's why they act so irrational with how they act and their actions. They do spontaneous laughter because the whole sabotage thing is so new to them and tempts them. The cheating thing really doesn't bother me either since, if you're a villain in RR where that kind of show is mostly challenge-based, I would assume the main villain would tweak those challenges a lot more than it might happen in TD.
As for the whole MacArthur thing, what it did accomplish was displaying that MacArthur would be willing to help anyone out even if it doesn't benefit herself, and it was also to display the final nail in the coffin that Josee isn't the kind of noble person she is. It was also done as a sort of twist that she still sticks to who she is regardless of what MacArthur does to her; "Just because she went soft doesn't mean I have to." Yes, most characters should have a shred of humanity, but Josee, and by extension Jacques, were raised to not really care about that kind of stuff. They went into this really try-hard ice dancing profession since they were only children, so developing empathy isn't going to come naturally. Just look at the finale when Josee tries to vow that she's going to be a better person only to shove an innocent old woman into a fountain with the "Or maybe now!" line (lol<3)
See, the problem with eliminating the Ice Dancers in India is that, while it might work in the sense that they get punished for cheating in the end with a ginormously long penalty, it wouldn't fully fit from an interaction perspective, since they were just starting something big with the Sisters interaction-wise, and while I'm a fan of the Best Friends and Daters, they were much better choices of being eliminated in their respective episodes than the Ice Dancers. Then there's the Police Cadets, which is self-explanatory because it fits way more for them to be the ones to finally defeat their season-long rivals; "If anything's taking you out of this race, it's gonna be me!" Like, imagine for instance if, in World Tour, instead of Alejandro being slid down a cliff on an ice cube by being betrayed by Heather, he would just get betrayed by her and eliminated over Sierra in Awwww Drumheller. It wouldn't fit because both interactions I mention would need a bigger climax based on how focused on they are.
Jacques is pretty iconically hilarious and does probably have the best voice in the show though imo.
If you want to see the Ice Dancers in a slightly better light, I would suggest reading this. It's very long so you probably won't read it in one go, but I'd suggest some of it if you can or if you want.
Sorry for bumping in, but I just want to say that it's so nice to have you back CF12 <3 You were always one of my favorite users in here because of your positivity and well thought out and explained comments.
Heather and Gwen are mostly just characters that over time I've liked a bit more. Gwen has never really been bad enough to move below the pile of mediocrity that is 60-70. Even if Heather is rarely my favorite in a season, she's really solid in all of them, which is worth a lot.
I just really like watching Kitty; I can't really explain why but she's just really likable and fun. Emma was somewhat a byproduct of Kitty moving up, plus I saw some of her inconsistency as development at a second glance.
I also moved Cody down by like ten because the more I think about it, the less I know why I had him so high in the first place.
I was more shocked that both the Surfer Dudes were exceptionally high. i don't see that as a common thing that would happen on this wiki. Don't have a problem with them, but still pretty surprised, especially Geoff going from being just kinda above average for you before to suddenly being a Top 5 character.
I saw a notification while I was on another wiki and didn't want to leave you hanging.
Current activity on the wiki isn't really the problem moreso than the fact that I left primarily because I was frustrated some of the community. Plus at this point my interest in the show has waned a bit - I still like it but not enough to roleplay/blog about it.