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Forum:Statistics page deletions

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Forum: Proposals > Statistics page deletions

We are a wiki, and at the end of the day, the first thing that anyone is going to see on here is a page. But what is a page, and what should a page be about? Honestly, I think we need to make it more clear that pages are for characters, episodes, interactions, plot arcs... basically things that matter. Under every page, we have trivia. A page should not be kept if it is just a trivia page; sure, trivia's neat to look at, and it usually has a lot of interesting information. However, it really isn't anything important.

Take a look at pages such as Campfire Ceremony statistics, Award Ceremony statistics, and Barf Bag Ceremony statistics. They're awesomely accurate with a lot of neat info, but how are we benefiting from them? Is it just because they look cool? What is the necessity? These pages really don't link to anything else on the site... in fact, the links for the first page show that the Campfire Ceremony statistics is linked in nine other pages. Seven are redirects while the other two are just about the bonfire ceremonies. Why can't information like these be moved to trivia?

What is the point? What is the necessity? Pages are supposed to be meaningful; I don't even really know what the purpose of half of these articles are, because not only can we find a good category name for them, they could also just as easily go in trivia. If the trivia sections are getting too long, then maybe the information on there really isn't needed. I'm glad some of you guys are removing unneeded trivia but pages like these are really ridiculous and, in my opinion, need to go.

Twenty votes on one side or on August 24, 2013

Support

  1. They used to be in the trivia section in the first place. Why not?--Bigez620 - Hullo! 04:36, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  2. I don't see why we can't just put them into the trivia sections. I mean why do statistics even need a page? I mean, they just sit there unedited, unless if there's a spelling mistake or a grammar error. Plus, the whole B2 and B2, X thing may be confusing to some users. Pages are meant for people to get information, not just because it looks or for what we think is cool. Support... :) ♥ numbuhthreefan • Message • Contribs • Edit | 04:52, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Whoops, supported. --TDIFan13 contribs · edits · wall 05:05, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  4. per above PhoenixDragonSamurai
  5. It's a very long list of trivia. TDA15 (Talk and Contribs) 16:08, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  6. I've said this before and I'll say it again: you can't make an entire page based on one piece of trivia. ~ neko-naito All I ask of you... 21:46, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  7. shouldn't this wiki look more neat? EvolLove 22:15, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  8. ~ RPs&Blogs!♪ Dakota ♫Talks&Edits! 23:06, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. I just don't think it's all that important to do. It's fine the way it is. I for one enjoy being able to look at the statistics on a single page instead of having to go through all the Trivia. For computers like mine, it just slows everything down when the pages have more info they they really need. It's just easier this way. I don't see a reason for this. --Samtastic450 05:10, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  2. I agree with Sam. It's too long for regular trivia, and I find the page interesting to read. I like statistics, deal with it guys. MabelPinkiePieStyle 05:11, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  3. This is a Wiki, and it's purpose is to store and describe everything as possible from the series so people can know as much as there is to know about the show, so the more trivia that we can get out of the show, the better. AwesomeTD (talk) 05:19, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Perhaps we could merge the page with the Bonfire Ceremony page? --Ferguson97 (talk) 12:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  5. I agree with Mabel, the trivia sections in my opinuin need to be limited because ther getting to long and half the stuff is pointless. And I like reading the statistic. But I do agree that the other pages you mentioned are useless. I'm Batman with a little more sparkles 13:10, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Wouldn't it also be a good idea to remove the participation tables too if we did this? The trivia sections already have pointless stuff and this has more than enough stuff to become a page. -- Webkinz ManiaWallBlogsContributionsEditcount 13:28, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  7. I see no harm in keeping them. It's interesting information that, if deleted, would just get lost in the sea of trivia every page has.-- Mygeto likes to STEAL your edits 18:05, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  8. I think there is nothing wrong with keeping them and some people, like me, find those pages very interesting. :D --Zannabanna (talk) 20:01, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  9. ~ CD-TDAMessage Wall Contributions[[Special:Editcount/CD-TDA|Special:Editcount/CD-TDA Edits]] 20:11, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
  10. I'm kind of a statistics nerd and I've always thought those pages were kind of interesting, and I don't know where else they would go. It's too much to put under a trivia category and scattering them in character pages seems unorganized. ~ Kgman04! ♪ Talk! ♫ Contribs! 21:45, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

You don't see a reason for what, Sam? My proposal? Because I sort of just explained why in three paragraphs. --TDIFan13 contribs · edits · wall 05:13, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

I think he just doesn't find any of your reasons important enough to delete this page, or have any reasons himself. MabelPinkiePieStyle 05:14, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Anyway, Neko supports too, she'll sign the proposal tomorrow or the day after probably. --TDIFan13 contribs · edits · wall 05:15, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

What Mabel said. I don't find it all that important to delete it. Maybe combine them all into one giant statistic page. I guess that would actually make more sense than deleting them all. Especially because TDWT's statistic page is kind of depressing and pointless. I say instead of deleteing, why not combine them all. --Samtastic450 05:18, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Samtastic, if you don't want to have all these separate articles, then that fine, just relocate them or join them all into bigger articles. Just look at what Wikipedia did in the past few months, instead of removing all the trivia, they just relocated all the trivia into more proper articles. AwesomeTD (talk) 05:45, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
If we were going to delete the pages just move them to the ceremony pages and add a satistics section.the bonfire/Award/Barf bag satistic pages could easly fit in the Ceremony pages. I'm Batman with a little more sparkles 13:39, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all your opinions, guys. I've decided that deleting the pages might be a little too extreme and therefore I'd like to merge them into one big page. I'll perhaps create a proposal about this later after speaking to some of the other admins. --TDIFan13 contribs · edits · wall 23:45, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

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